pens66

FYI, there is a street Capt. hired only 6 months ago for the Beech. He just finished IOE for his transition to Capt. for the SAAB. What about all of the qualified Saab FO's with a higher seniorty number. They tell us that everything is seniority based. (upgrade, line bids, vacation, etc) Yeah Right. I have been qualified for upgrade for 7 months. Why is he permitted to jump ahead? The Beech's ARE STILL FLYING! Same Crap, different day!

higney85

Vote YES for a union. This Pinnacle Corp BS will stop. I know I am not in the best spot to say my bias views but these "issues" are clearly dealt with by having a legally binding contract. Buddy and the gang are not there to be your "friends" and are far from the family setup the colgan people once had. Wish you luck. PIC time and the Pay is always a hard one to take on the cheek.

newarkblows

sorry to hear it. Give it a page or two and then someone will defend Colgan without any real reasons. Ignorance is bliss and most people defending colgan dont even know how bad they have it or how much better their qol could be somewhere that respects their employees. I hope you explain your experiences with your company to all up and coming pilots.

Seggy

www.alpa.org/colgan

Going to be updated early this week.

Andrew_VT

You say they broke the "rules" but you don't honestly think that those 'rules' ever actually had anything backing them up did you?

captain152

...we only get one vote right?... honestly, if it doesn't pass this time around ... there is something SERIOUSLY wrong

kalyx522

Yeah, same here, I'm a relatively senior FO with the time requirements. When I called to ask about upgrades, they STRESSED that it's based on seniority. yeah, that's fine and I'm totally for that. seriously, who are they trying to BS?
It's a screwed up situation, and if we were working for any decent airline with a contract this kind of thing wouldn't happen, or at least we would get bypass pay. Speaking of bypass pay, I heard that there is a senior FO who's got the times, and apparently, the company told him that since these beech street capts are transitioning to the saab ahead of him, they will give him captain's pay if they don't put him in the next upgrade class or so. I was and still am skeptical, after all this is COLGAN we're talking about here. But the FO himself has told a couple of people about it. If it is indeed true, I'm sure the company would keep it under wraps so they wouldn't have to pay all the other senior/qualified FOs as well.

captain152

Actually, rumor has it, there are 2 FOs that are going to be getting captain pay. I'm honestly not sure if it's a bunch of BS or not because I have no credible evidence to back it up with, but I happen to know both of the FOs in question. I just never got a chance to speak with either one of them before I left. If the rumor is true ... well, more power to them. But still ... I don't believe they should be get captain's pay at all until they pass their checkride like everyone else. I think the company should put them in the class they deserve to be in, and leave it at that. Seriously ... think about this ... if they get captain pay as a senior FO ... what's the friggin point in upgrading?! Besides the PIC time, you're getting the best schedule with almost twice the pay ... when you upgrade, you keep the pay and sacrifice the good schedule. The only good thing is the PIC time. Personally, if the rumor is true, I think they should be forced to upgrade when they are offered a class date now. It's one twisted world.

⌐ AV8OR WANNABE

Of course not! Ask Acorn for help - they'll help you to vote as much and as often as you want!

Machnumber

once again management is shooting themselves in the foot. Seems like they are trying to make themselves look bad and prove to us even more that we need a union and contract...