Colgan Changes Rules again to SUIT THEM
10-26-2008 | 06:56 PM
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FYI, there is a street Capt. hired only 6 months ago for the Beech. He just finished IOE for his transition to Capt. for the SAAB. What about all of the qualified Saab FO's with a higher seniorty number. They tell us that everything is seniority based. (upgrade, line bids, vacation, etc) Yeah Right. I have been qualified for upgrade for 7 months. Why is he permitted to jump ahead? The Beech's ARE STILL FLYING! Same Crap, different day!
once again management is shooting themselves in the foot. Seems like they are trying to make themselves look bad and prove to us even more that we need a union and contract...
10-27-2008 | 11:34 AM
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10-27-2008 | 12:21 PM
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FYI, there is a street Capt. hired only 6 months ago for the Beech. He just finished IOE for his transition to Capt. for the SAAB. What about all of the qualified Saab FO's with a higher seniorty number. They tell us that everything is seniority based. (upgrade, line bids, vacation, etc) Yeah Right. I have been qualified for upgrade for 7 months. Why is he permitted to jump ahead? The Beech's ARE STILL FLYING! Same Crap, different day!
10-27-2008 | 12:33 PM
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OK, first of all, what is your point? He already works at Colgan, so there IS no point is telling him he's stupid for choosing to come here.. Are you saying once someone makes a "mistake" of coming to Colgan, he's not allowed to complain about unfair practices? Are we not friggin human? I'll agree that if they're not doing anything except complaining, they don't really have a right to complain. But you have no idea if this guy could be one of the OC members who has been campaigning hard for the union for the past few months. He might've ended up in a crappy place, but he might be working to change that. You don't know, so who are you to judge? And where do you suggest he work right now? Where is this "somewhere else" that we can migrate to in the state that the industry is currently in?
10-27-2008 | 12:35 PM
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In his defense, he may have been working there before Pinnacle took them over. And it's not like today you can just pick up and go somewhere else when things change for the worse at your airline. If someone applied to there after Pinnacle bought them, well they were warned...
10-27-2008 | 12:41 PM
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In his defense, he may have been working there before Pinnacle took them over. And it's not like today you can just pick up and go somewhere else when things change for the worse at your airline. If someone applied to there after Pinnacle bought them, well they were warned...
10-27-2008 | 12:45 PM
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OK, first of all, what is your point? He already works at Colgan, so there IS no point is telling him he's stupid for choosing to come here.. Are you saying once someone makes a "mistake" of coming to Colgan, he's not allowed to complain about unfair practices? Are we not friggin human? I'll agree that if they're not doing anything except complaining, they don't really have a right to complain. But you have no idea if this guy could be one of the OC members who has been campaigning hard for the union for the past few months. He might've ended up in a crappy place, but he might be working to change that. You don't know, so who are you to judge? And where do you suggest he work right now? Where is this "somewhere else" that we can migrate to in the state that the industry is currently in?
2. At any point over his tenure there he could have benefited from unprecedented hiring at other regionals and have already upgraded elsewhere.
3. Mistakes imply an accident. Going to work there is not a mistake, it is a choice.
4. I suggest he sit tight and be happy he has a job......I dont.
5. "Somewhere else" would be a carrier over the last few years with substantial movement and growth. SkyWest comes to mind.
6. The union vote did not succeed, no reason in dwelling on that.
7. No I dont feel he has much to stand on complaining. We all choose our own.
8. Complaining and action are two different things. Lets not replace one with the other.
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