paxhauler85

Pretty sure you'll have to sign in at any major/legacy airline. At those airlines, however, it is counted as duty time.

It's not babysitting, its keeping people accountable for being on time, and an early alert for the company to call a reserve in the event of a no show.

I'm not saying we need the 24 hour-2 hour check in a Mesa(I'm actually very opposed since they want to use it as a way to change your trip) but checking in (in an attendance "format") is not useless.

NoJoy

Not only is the MEC pushing for this 2 year TA, but Big ALPA is pushing it as well. Most Mesa guys are saying they are going to vote no, but a few that I know of are voting yes. If I was a betting man, it is going to be a close vote.
By the way to see the unfiltered version of what alot of Mesa pilots view this contract, go to mesahub. More pilots are signing up by the day.

Ski Patrol

Which legacies require the sign in? I'm not aware of any but have done no research on the matter. My current job does not require it.

Still babysitting to me. Keeping folks accountable that's what the 45 minutes prior is for and the ten minute call after that it's in the GOM, course I'm sure you know where it's at.

Check in at mesa = pandora's box for crew trac (also the F8 certificate lock for contract admin)

Good luck I hope it works out.

Ski Patrol

Either ALPO has something up it's sleeve or they are selling MAG down the river for some reason.

flycrj200

At my company, we check in 1 hour before flight time and it is counted as duty time. They can not use us for anything during this one hour. It just gives us time to walk to the plane and depart on time. Two hours seems a little long.

rickair7777

The two hours is basically ready reserve...they have a window to reflow YOU and still have time to call a reserve from home (1.5 hour callout). Better pack for Puerto Vallarta AND Edmonton.

My company has check in too, but we DON'T have junior manning...for us it's simply check-in. I have been notified of schedule changes, but it's always been minor things within my footprint...if they drop a turn at that point I still get paid. I don't have a problem with check-in in general, I just have a problem with check-in at mesa.

Sun Tzu's fundamental strategic principle: Plan not for what you THINK the enemy will do, plan for what he is CAPABLE of doing.

Applied to mesa: Assume any weakness in the contract will be FULLY expolited by the enemy. Of course none of you should have ANY doubt as to who the enemy is...

JetJock16

Mad Props, I don't think it could have been said any better.

JetJock16

At SKW our check in is 45 minutes before departure time but it is built into our pairings as duty time. As Rick said they can’t JR man us without our consent.

We must check in on a company computer at our domicile unless we have a trip that begins with a deadhead and we dropped the deadhead (we still get full pay for the DH) in order to make the trip commutable. Once we get to the airport were we are picking up the trip we then have to contact CS and inform them of our arrival. Also if we are running late we can call crew support, explain our situation, and they’ll check us in so we can head straight to the gate. In ATL our crew lounge is under concourse D and we park in B so CS allows us to always check in over the phone as long as we don’t abuse the privilege. I guarantee you that with JO you will never get this kind of flexibility so you need to protect yourself as much as possible.

Good luck guys and vote NO!!!!!!!!

buffmike80

I don't really have a problem with the check in, Jetblue does the same thing, 24hrs-3hrs before your show time you call crew voice press #2, enter employee number, pin, and #1, then done, took less than a minute.
I know you guys are thinking this all all evil and bad, its just to let the company know you are aware that you have a trip coming up, at the 3hr mark for us if we don't get checked in they call us if we don't respond they call out a reserve with a 2hr call out, flight still goes out on time.
Now that's what a good company does with it, what will mesa do with it:
They will use it to notify you that you have been reassigned to some different trip (this is now legal with your new contract, but your pay protected for all your flying so you may fly less and get paid more, great, you may fly the more and get paid the more [pay protected for the more now] if it goes past your original footprint you get 200% pay, cool stick it to JO!)
Crew Tracking is so far behind that there is no way they will JA you 24hrs out, let alone 4 days out on 4 day trip. It does not matter whether you check in or not, they are going to reassign you anyways its just gonna take more time, but the fact is your not gonna fly a flight that does not have your name on the release, so you might as well be notified of your trip as far in advanced as possible
One more thing to add to the list: FULL PAY FOR DHD!!!

cubflyer

MESA Pilots,

I can't believe your MEC has sent this out for a vote.

1. Deicing and not getting paid for it????!!!!!???? It is a fact that crews are "operating" the aircraft during the deicing phase. There are deicing checklists, switches to flip, and overall alot of responsibility to properly deice. GEEZ.....what are they thinking??!?!?!?!?!?!?

2. Two hour check-in? Sounds like the company wants you on their property so that they have more time to tinker with your schedule (i.e. Junior Man).

3. 2.1% pay increase AFTER 2 years??????!!!!! It's a known fact that salaries increases in general aren't keeping up with inflation.

4. No swaps / trades????!!!!!????

Good luck guys and gals. I'm sure I speak for the masses that your TA is garbage. Stand firm and send a message!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!