How long did you CFI before 1st job?
11-30-2008 | 05:43 PM
#91
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From: SkyWest Capt.
I personally don’t think that MPD is undercut pilots, I just don't agree with JO’s tactics or PFT type operations (i.e. Gulfstream).
11-30-2008 | 06:47 PM
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i think most people are up in arms because it's Mesa. If it had been Republic Pilot Development, there'd probably be people jumping all over it. So when people who never have gone to a "pilot development" program were getting jobs at Compass, Expressjet, Eagle, Republic, or Skywest. Then others start wondering "why would anyone pay $$ to MESA to get a guarenteed interview with said airline. As many believe, mesa is the bottom of the barrel, i don't believe that their crews are, but, believe that their management would stand arm and arm with other low life individuals (plenty at my company) so, that'd be the problem.
11-30-2008 | 07:14 PM
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I flight instructed at a small FBO till about 550 hrs and then got on with a 135/141 company in HI, and started logging tons of time broke 1000TT and decided that I needed to finish a four year degree now or I never would, because some bigger opportunity was presenting itself, now going to school full time with instruction and VFR Charters on the side. Would never give up those experiences for a RJ FO gig. Its worth way more, besides if I'd gone Regional I would probably be out of a job right now. But instead I have a bunch of 135/CFI experience over 1450TT 1300PIC and have started looking under rocks for 135 IFR jobs. Been flying professionally for 2 years in september of this year.
11-30-2008 | 08:28 PM
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From: UPS 757/767 Capt ONT
"If someone has a problem with where I went to school and how I got my job with the airlines, they are more than welcome to take it up with me."
MAPD and 300 hour pax jet F/O's are not good for the industry or the profession. I've spoke to that ad naseum here and at JC. I'd be happy to bring it up to you in person, either before or after you get hired at UPS...
MAPD and 300 hour pax jet F/O's are not good for the industry or the profession. I've spoke to that ad naseum here and at JC. I'd be happy to bring it up to you in person, either before or after you get hired at UPS...
11-30-2008 | 08:41 PM
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I wouldn't trade my 20 months of instructing for anything. If the pay had gone up at my school sooner to what it is now I'd still be there and I'd be working on a masters degree. I couldn't afford to live on $1300 a month after taxes and wasn't willing to move. So I bailed for the airlines. It's amazing what $300-400 a month more can do for you when you're making that little.
Got to the first airline with 700/50. Hated that airline and left after 6 months. Went to another airline that I enjoyed working at a lot more but I'm now furloughed. That masters would come in handy right about now...
Got to the first airline with 700/50. Hated that airline and left after 6 months. Went to another airline that I enjoyed working at a lot more but I'm now furloughed. That masters would come in handy right about now...
11-30-2008 | 08:44 PM
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From: Tool-Box, old man
I instructed for about 3 years (about 1200 hours of primary instruction with one commercial student) before I escaped to my first "job". It took six more years to end up where I wanted to be. Hang in there.
fbh
P.S. any time someone says something stupid over the radio, I casually look over to my partner-in-crime and say; " It can't be any of mine,...they're all dead."
fbh
P.S. any time someone says something stupid over the radio, I casually look over to my partner-in-crime and say; " It can't be any of mine,...they're all dead."
11-30-2008 | 09:05 PM
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From: I was acquired, Not Hired
I was fortunate enough not to receive my CFI until after being furloughed from TWA/American. Yes, there is a point to my posting.
In my opinion, when you look at airline's hiring mins you get an idea of what quality time they are looking for, not to mention quantity.
Time in type and a type rating, Turbine PIC, Overwater time, etc, are some of the more common buzzwords.
Trying to bring it all home, try to look for time-building opportunities that match the job you are seeking. For instance 100 hours of King Air SIC time may be as valuable as 500 hours of CFI time if you're seeking to fly Lear Jets.
250 hours of Lear Jet time may be more valuable than 1000 hrs of banner towing time if you're looking to get on with a regional or Corp flight dept.
Just my two potatoes worth,
FF
In my opinion, when you look at airline's hiring mins you get an idea of what quality time they are looking for, not to mention quantity.
Time in type and a type rating, Turbine PIC, Overwater time, etc, are some of the more common buzzwords.
Trying to bring it all home, try to look for time-building opportunities that match the job you are seeking. For instance 100 hours of King Air SIC time may be as valuable as 500 hours of CFI time if you're seeking to fly Lear Jets.
250 hours of Lear Jet time may be more valuable than 1000 hrs of banner towing time if you're looking to get on with a regional or Corp flight dept.
Just my two potatoes worth,
FF
12-01-2008 | 09:54 AM
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From: B737 FO
I'm still instructing. I've been instructing part time for 3 years while finishing my Bachelor's and Master's degrees. Sure, I may not be flying a shinny new jet, but the flexibility of instructing allows me to work on my Master's full time. I enjoy teaching, I've become a better pilot b/c of it, and the quality of life is great. Not to mention, a 2-yr CFI is a valuable asset to flight schools these days.
Having a dream to fly for a major is good, but don't be so consumed with where you're going that you're not experiencing fulfillment where you're at. Don't miss the forest for the trees. There's plenty to learn and enjoy with every flying job. It's all about attitude and perspective.
Having a dream to fly for a major is good, but don't be so consumed with where you're going that you're not experiencing fulfillment where you're at. Don't miss the forest for the trees. There's plenty to learn and enjoy with every flying job. It's all about attitude and perspective.
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