BURflyer

Maybe it's because Aloha is gone they didn't have the muscle to deal with it. Still lots of problems for Mesa like having no cash and Delta lawsuits in Jan.

The Duke

1.) We're suing Delta, not the other way around...on the grounds that they wrongfully terminated our flying. Management probably sees there's nothing to lose, so go after Delta. We'll see how it turns out. We've already lost a pretty good chunk of flying w/ Big D already.

2.) I'm totally caught off guard by the Aloha settlement. I thought we would lose quite a bit more money, had no idea that a proposed settlement was even being considered.

3.) Probably the biggest hurdle is yet to be resolved: A supposed non-deferrable $100,000,000 bond payment to Bombardier due sometime in January/February. Don't know what can be done about that. It's my understanding that we don't have nearly that much cash on hand.

p1ayn

As I have stated before, hate the b@$tard or not, he is a shrewd business man and unfortunately knows what he is doing. Every month the aviation industry states he/mesa is done, yet every month he pulls out another victory. Mesa has been around and still is because young hopefuls go to him for the experience and hopes to leave. Some do and some don't, however the revolving door does not matter, only personnel occupying the aircraft seats. The Delta suit means nothing but inconvenience to both parties and rest assured they will settle. Outcome, cheapest operator will win, and others will be bitter; song remains the same.

nwa757

I think you have many points that are right. The real mission is helping ALL Mesa pilots understand what they are doing to our profession by supporting their CEO and his corrupt efforts. Mesa ALPA really should be taking some stronger stances, but I haven't seen many headlines.

flycrj200

It would be a disgrace to all of our brothers and sisters to see Go pilot flying Go Airline jets under the Aloha name. May Mesa and JO RIP in the Bankruptcy court soon.

andy171773

Did you copy and paste from this thread to comair's...or from comair's to here

Flyboy8784

I dont want JO to Rest in Peace....I want him to Rot in Hell!!!

flycrj200

From here to Comair, and I would post this any place I can. Mesa sucks and needs to go away. Nothing aginst the Mesa pilots or employees. Good luck to all. You Mesa guys need to man up and screw JO.

BURflyer

What? Is that why Mesa formed the BK committee when they found the ERJ flying was going to be pulled?? Delta suit has the potential to not only cripple the company but liquidate it.

The Duke

I don't know much about the Delta suit, but any sort of suit on Delta's part is probably just posturing. The claim is that we didn't meet certain performance parameters set forth by Delta in codesharing contract...breach of contract, hence Delta's ability to cancel the codeshare agreement. Convenient for Delta because w/ the merger, as other threads have indicated here on APC, Delta is looking to get rid of some codeshare partners. Mesa's claim is that Delta mandated some of the cancelations and the the performance numbers re: cancelations aren't accurate.

Evidently the judge overseeing all of this felt Mesa had a "compelling" argument and granted the injunction in favor of Mesa. In other words, if heard in a court of law, Mesa's case would stand a chance. I would think a settlement may be in both parties best interest. Delta feels it doesn't need Mesa, there's no use doing business w/ someone you don't like. Fork over some settlement cash and be done w/ it. Mesa needs the money right now, we've already lost a substantial amount of flying w/ Delta...both parties walk away from the table at least somewhat satisfied.

Either way, it will be interesting to see what happens. W/ this Aloha development, I would think just about anything is possible at this point.