Removing Circling Limitations using Company Sims
12-02-2008, 12:15 PM
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I know for ExpressJet they aren't willing to remove the restriction because it's not approved for their ops specs, but they were letting us rent the sims to have it removed. If that makes sense. It's something like that anyway.. maybe another XJT guy can speak up.
I didn't look too far into it, but I know there are guys who have been getting it removed on our sims.
I didn't look too far into it, but I know there are guys who have been getting it removed on our sims.
12-02-2008, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by James Bond
The fact that your even contemplating shelling out cash to remove a restriction that most 121 pilots have on their certificate is appalling. Why put yourself into an unnecessary jeopardy situation?
weird...
weird...
12-02-2008, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by contrails
Well, James Bond -
'When you get furloughed from your 25K a year job here in the states and a place in China is offering 75K for the same job, it may make sense to some to drop $500-1500 down and get the limitation off the certificate.
Weird isn't it?
'When you get furloughed from your 25K a year job here in the states and a place in China is offering 75K for the same job, it may make sense to some to drop $500-1500 down and get the limitation off the certificate.
Weird isn't it?
The weird part to me is how the original poster stated:
"I'm kind of finicky about my certs, and if I have a type rating I don't want the limitations...even if the limitation has no effect on current operations."
I can see where you are coming from, but our original poster doesn't start with his regional for another month and a half. I guess its never to early to plan for a furlough.
12-02-2008, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSultanofScud
I'm sorry to appall you, Bond...I guess being offended is a natural course of leaving your own desktop. That being said, thanks for contributing to the thread; I'm learning a lot.
I apologize for judging you on wanting to purchase a non-limiting SIC type.
12-02-2008, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSultanofScud
This is mostly directed at those familiar with the XJ training deparment, but I think it's applicable to a lot of other operations issuing SIC type ratings with circling limitations.
Does does anyone know if the Mesaba training department has authorization to conduct the training to remove the circling limitations after a type rating? I know they certainly won't pay for it (why should they pay for something that probably isn't allowed by ops-specs)...but I was wondering if I could theoretically pay for some work in the company training dept. to remove the limitation or if I'd have to go to factory training, Flight Safety, yada yada. Just curious; I'm kind of finicky about my certs, and if I have a type rating I don't want the limitations...even if the limitation has no effect on current operations. Thanks in advance; I searched other threads that touched on the limitation itself, but I think my question is a little too specific.
Does does anyone know if the Mesaba training department has authorization to conduct the training to remove the circling limitations after a type rating? I know they certainly won't pay for it (why should they pay for something that probably isn't allowed by ops-specs)...but I was wondering if I could theoretically pay for some work in the company training dept. to remove the limitation or if I'd have to go to factory training, Flight Safety, yada yada. Just curious; I'm kind of finicky about my certs, and if I have a type rating I don't want the limitations...even if the limitation has no effect on current operations. Thanks in advance; I searched other threads that touched on the limitation itself, but I think my question is a little too specific.
12-02-2008, 01:19 PM
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Now that's the answer I'm looking for. Thanks, Avro. From a practical standpoint, there's no way I would pay to remove the limitation until I upgrade...I can't even justify it to myself if it isn't a full blown PIC privilege. Thanks again; Maybe I'll check in with Pan Am and hit them up in several years if I have the upgrade and an income...maybe find a way to write it off.
12-03-2008, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Thedude
Sure you can. Many sim centers have a circling removal course. It take less than a couple of hours to do the traing and the ride.
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