Good news everybody!
12-09-2008 | 04:08 PM
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I forgot to say that my "sarcasm hat" was on when I posted this.
I would love to believe the news, but see that it is all marketing written by the director of RJ program at All ATP's.
I would love to believe the news, but see that it is all marketing written by the director of RJ program at All ATP's.
12-09-2008 | 04:16 PM
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AllATP's says you're all gonna get hired next year!
The Majors Are Making Money, So A Pilot Shortage Is Not Far Away!
By Paul Templeton on December 9, 2008 4:52 PM | No TrackBacks
In June of 2008 the price of a barrel of oil began to climb inexplicably from the price range it had occupied for years to over $145 per barrel in July. Airlines in turn accelerated plans to park antiquated fuel-guzzling airplanes such as the MD-88, older 737s and even 747s, and looked for other ways to cut costs.
While their cost-cutting plans were being put into place, the price of oil was already coming back down. Airlines have had to take hits for late ill-timed attempts at fuel hedging, but most of that was in the 3rd quarter, clearing the way for fourth quarter profitability and clearer sailing in 2009. Airlines will continue to charge the fees put place during the tough times. These fees, which once barely offset the extreme fuel prices, are now hugely profitable. As oil prices continue to decline and the economy returns to life, the profit margins of the major airlines will continue to grow.
Over the next year Airlines will start expanding again for competitive reasons and when that happens they will try to go after some of the smaller markets abandoned in 2008, and will avoid the same mistakes made in the past when gas guzzlers were placed on those routes. The Major Airlines will assign that flying to their Regional Airline partners who will fly to those smaller cities in fuel-efficient new generation Regional Jets such as the CRJ-700/900 and CRJ-1000, or the EMB-175 or the EMB-195.
At that time, there is sure to be a severe pilot shortage and the demand for pilots will be very high due to:
Paul Templeton is ATP’s Regional Jet Program Director, and a regular contributor to PilotJobs.com.
The Majors Are Making Money, So A Pilot Shortage Is Not Far Away!
By Paul Templeton on December 9, 2008 4:52 PM | No TrackBacks
In June of 2008 the price of a barrel of oil began to climb inexplicably from the price range it had occupied for years to over $145 per barrel in July. Airlines in turn accelerated plans to park antiquated fuel-guzzling airplanes such as the MD-88, older 737s and even 747s, and looked for other ways to cut costs.
While their cost-cutting plans were being put into place, the price of oil was already coming back down. Airlines have had to take hits for late ill-timed attempts at fuel hedging, but most of that was in the 3rd quarter, clearing the way for fourth quarter profitability and clearer sailing in 2009. Airlines will continue to charge the fees put place during the tough times. These fees, which once barely offset the extreme fuel prices, are now hugely profitable. As oil prices continue to decline and the economy returns to life, the profit margins of the major airlines will continue to grow.
Over the next year Airlines will start expanding again for competitive reasons and when that happens they will try to go after some of the smaller markets abandoned in 2008, and will avoid the same mistakes made in the past when gas guzzlers were placed on those routes. The Major Airlines will assign that flying to their Regional Airline partners who will fly to those smaller cities in fuel-efficient new generation Regional Jets such as the CRJ-700/900 and CRJ-1000, or the EMB-175 or the EMB-195.
At that time, there is sure to be a severe pilot shortage and the demand for pilots will be very high due to:
- Major Airlines who will begin to hire pilots from the ranks of Regional Airlines as they expand.
- Presently furloughed pilots being hired for lucrative jobs overseas in emerging airline markets in the Europe, the Middle East, Asia and the Pacific Rim.
- An extreme shortage of students presently training for airline pilot positions.
Paul Templeton is ATP’s Regional Jet Program Director, and a regular contributor to PilotJobs.com.
12-09-2008 | 05:25 PM
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LOLOL yea same here what a load of crap, oh well I can only hope they are right.
12-09-2008 | 05:53 PM
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I don't know why some guys don't liek ATP. I and alot of my friends all went to ATP and that place is great if you want to get into a Regional and do it fast. Aside from the fact that I am furloghed now. My experiance with ATP was great. I instructed in a Multi-engine airplane only. And in 3 months was at expressjet. Saying that it's too good to be true is basically ignoring the fact that so many people that fly in the reginals now are all ATP grads. And the best thing is if you stay with them and have 300 Dual given, you get the CRJ course for free.
12-09-2008 | 06:02 PM
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This line says it all. If that isn't pure 100% marketing, I don't know what is... and I have a degree in marketing!
12-09-2008 | 06:03 PM
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Because that's what it's worth. There were idiots back in 07, when airlines were hiring anybody, who were paying the 6k for it and riding all their hopes for a job on passing that course. I've heard some actually failed it. HTF!
ATP is good, it's a business though, they're not there to blow sunshine and do you a favor.
ATP is good, it's a business though, they're not there to blow sunshine and do you a favor.
12-09-2008 | 06:09 PM
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I don't know why some guys don't liek ATP. I and alot of my friends all went to ATP and that place is great if you want to get into a Regional and do it fast. Aside from the fact that I am furloghed now. My experiance with ATP was great. I instructed in a Multi-engine airplane only. And in 3 months was at expressjet. Saying that it's too good to be true is basically ignoring the fact that so many people that fly in the reginals now are all ATP grads. And the best thing is if you stay with them and have 300 Dual given, you get the CRJ course for free.
Like many others, I don't have the most favorable view of that company. I agree that most of the branches train students just to pass checkrides. I have met some great guys that trained there, but they were exceptional people and had to be self-sufficient because they received NO GROUND. So many pilots who are not a self starters still manage to get turned out of the pilot factory and sent to the regionals with 350 TT to lower the pay and QOL for the people that actually EARNED their licences and experience. Like I said, I have nothing against the guys and gals that went to ATP and worked hard to actually become good pilots. I just have met too many that did the bare minimums to pass the checkrides and it scares me to think that Captains in the regionals are having to give dual with 50 passengers in the back because of guys like that.
As for ATPs rosy outlook, I have to remind everyone that this statement is coming from a company that just cut half of its workforce.
12-09-2008 | 06:47 PM
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Uh, like, yeah. ATP is not known for quality edumication and some junk like that.
Like many others, I don't have the most favorable view of that company. I agree that most of the branches train students just to pass checkrides. I have met some great guys that trained there, but they were exceptional people and had to be self-sufficient because they received NO GROUND. So many pilots who are not a self starters still manage to get turned out of the pilot factory and sent to the regionals with 350 TT to lower the pay and QOL for the people that actually EARNED their licences and experience. Like I said, I have nothing against the guys and gals that went to ATP and worked hard to actually become good pilots. I just have met too many that did the bare minimums to pass the checkrides and it scares me to think that Captains in the regionals are having to give dual with 50 passengers in the back because of guys like that.
As for ATPs rosy outlook, I have to remind everyone that this statement is coming from a company that just cut half of its workforce.
Like many others, I don't have the most favorable view of that company. I agree that most of the branches train students just to pass checkrides. I have met some great guys that trained there, but they were exceptional people and had to be self-sufficient because they received NO GROUND. So many pilots who are not a self starters still manage to get turned out of the pilot factory and sent to the regionals with 350 TT to lower the pay and QOL for the people that actually EARNED their licences and experience. Like I said, I have nothing against the guys and gals that went to ATP and worked hard to actually become good pilots. I just have met too many that did the bare minimums to pass the checkrides and it scares me to think that Captains in the regionals are having to give dual with 50 passengers in the back because of guys like that.
As for ATPs rosy outlook, I have to remind everyone that this statement is coming from a company that just cut half of its workforce.
12-09-2008 | 06:56 PM
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Where did I get trained? A few different places. I started flying in 1994. I used to manage a couple of flight schools for a national company that started in the 1930s. Many of the ATP guys that I interviewed surprised me with their lack of knowledge. I also trained or managed the training for MANY a disgruntled ex-ATP student. My beef is with the organization, NOT with the exceptional pilots that didn't settle for minimum knowledge and skill when they were there.
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