"rah, And 190-pay Rates?"
12-12-2008 | 08:55 PM
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"rah, And 190-pay Rates?"
Well, I was searching our company website, and came across the new podcast video from our COO, Wayne Heller...
Republic Airways
This is the link...
He talks about our peformance, as well as future plane reductions for the year of 2009, and into 2010.
And toward the end of this video he discusses, and compares rates for the 190, and how we can stand out to fly these airplanes for different carriers. He also, say how it would be beneficial for us to fly them rather than the "majors" and it starts at the pay rates...
Although, I am not at RAH anymore, I hope they will not fly those A/C, that is if they get them, for less pay than Jet Blue, or Airways, payscales...
Enjoy the PODCAST.
Republic Airways
This is the link...
He talks about our peformance, as well as future plane reductions for the year of 2009, and into 2010.
And toward the end of this video he discusses, and compares rates for the 190, and how we can stand out to fly these airplanes for different carriers. He also, say how it would be beneficial for us to fly them rather than the "majors" and it starts at the pay rates...
Although, I am not at RAH anymore, I hope they will not fly those A/C, that is if they get them, for less pay than Jet Blue, or Airways, payscales...
Enjoy the PODCAST.
12-12-2008 | 09:53 PM
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Right. If we get 190s what are we supposed to do, refuse to fly what will be legally acquired flying?
I think we can all agree that the tone of the podcast re: receiving 90+ seat flying from the majors because of cost effectiveness makes us a little queasy, but scope is scope and there isn't crap we at RAH can do about any flying we get from any other source. It's up to the majors to not give an inch.
I personally don't want anything to do with 190s, but if any REGIONAL is going to get them, I'd rather it be us. Sorry.
I think we can all agree that the tone of the podcast re: receiving 90+ seat flying from the majors because of cost effectiveness makes us a little queasy, but scope is scope and there isn't crap we at RAH can do about any flying we get from any other source. It's up to the majors to not give an inch.
I personally don't want anything to do with 190s, but if any REGIONAL is going to get them, I'd rather it be us. Sorry.
12-13-2008 | 03:40 AM
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Right. If we get 190s what are we supposed to do, refuse to fly what will be legally acquired flying?
I think we can all agree that the tone of the podcast re: receiving 90+ seat flying from the majors because of cost effectiveness makes us a little queasy, but scope is scope and there isn't crap we at RAH can do about any flying we get from any other source. It's up to the majors to not give an inch.
I personally don't want anything to do with 190s, but if any REGIONAL is going to get them, I'd rather it be us. Sorry.
I think we can all agree that the tone of the podcast re: receiving 90+ seat flying from the majors because of cost effectiveness makes us a little queasy, but scope is scope and there isn't crap we at RAH can do about any flying we get from any other source. It's up to the majors to not give an inch.
I personally don't want anything to do with 190s, but if any REGIONAL is going to get them, I'd rather it be us. Sorry.
12-13-2008 | 05:18 AM
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First, let me say that I'm not bashing you for most your statement. I think that in the long run, you want to see them stay at mainline. However, if the opportunity does present itself, there are some things the RAH guys can do. Primarily, refuse whatever pay rate management throws at you. If and when this does happen (to any regional), it will be those pilot's responsibility to not bring the bar down and refuse to fly them for anything less than comporable to ANY other carrier that has them.
12-13-2008 | 05:34 AM
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From the RAH contract, Article 21, "New Aircraft"
6. Nothing set forth in this Article shall prevent the Company from introducing
a new aircraft type into revenue service before agreement is reached over
the rates applicable to that aircraft, as long as the pay rates assigned to
such aircraft type are not less than the rates provided by this Article or the
principal Agreement for aircraft with similar power plant (turboprop or jet)
and seat range that either includes the number of seats in the new aircraft
type or has a seat range not greater than the number seats in the disputed
aircraft. If the aircraft is smaller (less seats) than any other aircraft for
which pay scales have been established by this Agreement then, subject
to the provisions of this article, the Company will establish a rate for the
new aircraft until a negotiated rate has been agreed to by the parties. The
negotiated rate will be retroactive to the implementation of the new aircraft
type.
a new aircraft type into revenue service before agreement is reached over
the rates applicable to that aircraft, as long as the pay rates assigned to
such aircraft type are not less than the rates provided by this Article or the
principal Agreement for aircraft with similar power plant (turboprop or jet)
and seat range that either includes the number of seats in the new aircraft
type or has a seat range not greater than the number seats in the disputed
aircraft. If the aircraft is smaller (less seats) than any other aircraft for
which pay scales have been established by this Agreement then, subject
to the provisions of this article, the Company will establish a rate for the
new aircraft until a negotiated rate has been agreed to by the parties. The
negotiated rate will be retroactive to the implementation of the new aircraft
type.
12-13-2008 | 05:36 AM
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WOW are you seriously getting a tent in your pants over taking more mainline flying down into the gutter that is the regionals? Thank you sir, thank you for being THAT GUY.
12-13-2008 | 05:43 AM
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First, let me say that I'm not bashing you for most your statement. I think that in the long run, you want to see them stay at mainline. However, if the opportunity does present itself, there are some things the RAH guys can do. Primarily, refuse whatever pay rate management throws at you. If and when this does happen (to any regional), it will be those pilot's responsibility to not bring the bar down and refuse to fly them for anything less than comporable to ANY other carrier that has them.
Captain’s Pay Rates will be as follows for 79 to 99 Seat Turbojet Aircraft:
Captain Pay Rates 79-99 Seat Jet
Year
1 $ 64.39
2 $ 68.17
3 $ 72.80
4 $ 75.07
5 $ 77.38
6 $ 79.78
7 $ 82.24
8 $ 84.79
9 $ 87.40
10 $ 90.13
11 $ 92.90
12 $ 96.20
13 $ 98.74
14 $ 101.80
15 $ 104.95
16 $ 108.09
17 $ 110.79
18 $ 113.56
19 $ 116.41
20 $ 119.32
12-13-2008 | 06:10 AM
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I am saying only mainline pilots can fix this mess...they had the power to start it and they have the power to stop it.....but they wont...because it will cost them...same reason it started.
12-14-2008 | 07:51 AM
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Two wrongs don't make a right. If you accept the regional payscale to fly a 190 then you are just as pathetic as the folks who gave it up. The very statement you made shows the breakdown in pilot unity that management loves. I hope you learn to think more collectively and less about yourself.
12-14-2008 | 08:02 AM
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There's nothing to fix because last time I checked, no mainline pilot group has given up 90 seat scope. And you WONT get it from DAL pilots. We've already lost enough flying. Nice attitude BTW. Keep it up and you'll likely be flying CRJs for a long time.
