US Airways Express incident in PHL
12-17-2008, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyboy8784
All female crew right?
What do you think the odds were that they couldnt lift the emergency gear extension?? I mean it requires what 40-50 lbs draw weight??? I just cant imagine the emergency extension not working especially since Hydraulic 2 helps force the gear down.
Mind you i didnt bring this up...another captain did...im not trying to sound sexist or anything.
What do you think the odds were that they couldnt lift the emergency gear extension?? I mean it requires what 40-50 lbs draw weight??? I just cant imagine the emergency extension not working especially since Hydraulic 2 helps force the gear down.
Mind you i didnt bring this up...another captain did...im not trying to sound sexist or anything.
12-17-2008, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by kt61
Too late. You sound sexist. You're the one that repeated it on a pilot message board. What do you think the chances are that those pilots managed to pass their sim checks without being able to lift the emergency gear extension? Or that they would actually try to land with one up without trying everything?
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12-17-2008, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by kt61
What do you think the chances are that those pilots managed to pass their sim checks without being able to lift the emergency gear extension?
12-17-2008, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB
Did you have to raise the emergency gear extension handle in training?? I sure didn't. But I can tell you that I've done it in-flight for a hydraulically-related gear-emergency, and it required everything I had, while standing over it, to extend the handle.
12-17-2008, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by kt61
Too late. You sound sexist. You're the one that repeated it on a pilot message board. What do you think the chances are that those pilots managed to pass their sim checks without being able to lift the emergency gear extension? Or that they would actually try to land with one up without trying everything?
Before you put your foot any further down your throat...i did not repeat this on the message board...i think ive posted twice on the company forum and it involved leather jackets.
It was brought up to me and my Captain by another Captain at our company...i was just passing it along...you ask anyone who knows me...im far from sexist...I have flown with a alot of female Captains and they all had every right to be in that seat.
My point was that i could see it being an issue because I know a few women who can lift a 50 lb bag of flour. The handle on the RJ is in an awkward shape and in a bad position. Its definately easier to pull if you have some weight behind you.
12-17-2008, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB
Did you have to raise the emergency gear extension handle in training?? I sure didn't. But I can tell you that I've done it in-flight for a hydraulically-related gear-emergency, and it required everything I had, while standing over it, to extend the handle.
Originally Posted by Flyboy8784
Before you put your foot any further down your throat...i did not repeat this on the message board...
It was brought up to me and my Captain by another Captain at our company...i was just passing it along...you ask anyone who knows me...im far from sexist...I have flown with a alot of female Captains and they all had every right to be in that seat.
My point was that i could see it being an issue because I know a few women who can lift a 50 lb bag of flour. The handle on the RJ is in an awkward shape and in a bad position. Its definately easier to pull if you have some weight behind you.
It was brought up to me and my Captain by another Captain at our company...i was just passing it along...you ask anyone who knows me...im far from sexist...I have flown with a alot of female Captains and they all had every right to be in that seat.
My point was that i could see it being an issue because I know a few women who can lift a 50 lb bag of flour. The handle on the RJ is in an awkward shape and in a bad position. Its definately easier to pull if you have some weight behind you.
I'm pretty sure if one female pilot couldn't move the thing, she'd ask for help and I bet between the 3 of them, they could manage to move it. Next you'll be saying she can't apply enough rudder pressure if an engine were to fail and therefore women shouldn't fly multiengine airplanes.
And Jake, thanks for the ditto. Pretty ridiculous to think ANY pilot would choose to land with one main up without trying all the options.
12-17-2008, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by kt61
I'm pretty sure if one female pilot couldn't move the thing, she'd ask for help and I bet between the 3 of them, they could manage to move it. Next you'll be saying she can't apply enough rudder pressure if an engine were to fail and therefore women shouldn't fly multiengine airplanes.
My wife (a fairly ardent feminist) was going though 727 Systems class at Purdue, and during a discussion of the flight engineer panel the professor asked "Who knows where the clock is located?"
My wife instantly responds "On the stove?"
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My point is this - just because somebody asks a question doesn't mean there is more behind it...
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