The wheels are coming off at Pinnacle
01-07-2009, 06:32 AM
#211
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Originally Posted by mooney
and how long were you in negotiations? That was "working well?"
We did give alpa plenty of time to work something out but once it became obvious they weren't up to the task (it became obvious to some of us long before that but I digress...) the pilot group took matters into our own hands and within a month or two things moved at light speed and TADA! we got a contract magically....
However, it does take a pilot group with knowledge and experience and frankly....nads. (english as a first language helps too for communicating discrepancies)
and again, I apologize to anyone taxiing behind myself or any other ASA plane that moved at a "brisk walk" and anyone trying to fly somewhere on a plane without the proper placards or bonding straps or lights or cockpit seats that worked properly or...well, you should get the idea.
01-07-2009, 06:36 AM
#212
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Originally Posted by ohplease!
a little over 5 years.
My point exactly. So you have a better pilot group because you were in negotiations longer than Pinnacle has been? Makes no sense to me...
01-07-2009, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by mooney
My point exactly. So you have a better pilot group because you were in negotiations longer than Pinnacle has been? Makes no sense to me...
because I'd really like for you to understand.
01-07-2009, 06:45 AM
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I understand you perfectly. You were in negotioations LONGER than we have been, yet you have more balls than we do.....no hablo ingles senor
01-07-2009, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mooney
I understand you perfectly. You were in negotioations LONGER than we have been, yet you have more balls than we do.....no hablo ingles senor
01-07-2009, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ohplease!
key phrase....
If you're not at 9e, you really are wasting alot of your time/energy *****ing about our negotiations when you could be doing better things with your own life.
(not directed at you, war eagle, just in general)
01-07-2009, 06:54 AM
#217
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Originally Posted by ohplease!
key phrase....
01-07-2009, 07:01 AM
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01-07-2009, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ohplease!
It sure worked well at ASA. But you have to have a good pilot group...and you apparently don't. Sorry.
01-07-2009, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Noseeums
Yeah you're right. 5 years of negotiations at ASA. Wow, how'd you get it done so quick? Must have been all them "tactics" and that "better than 9E pilot group". Keep dreaming there oh skipper of the skies. We're all in the same boat and I certainly do remember a time when ASA was considered, by folks of equal or greater ignorance than yours, a sub-standard regional(oxymoron). Sorry.
The really unfortunate thing is we're all handcuffed by the RLA (if ANYTHING is going to change here or at the mainlines, this has to change). Maybe once your group realizes alpa isn't the answer, they'll nut up and take over. I just hope for your sake its quicker than our group realized it....'til then, nothing else matters.
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