FO's especially and Capt's as well.....fully read the ATIS!!!!!
01-19-2009 | 11:02 AM
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Am I Wrong??????????
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From: ThE jEtTtTtTtT
Same old crap.... Like say...
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As a "professional" pilot you (we) should be practicing our profession at all times.... skimming over things, and glossing over an ATIS is not the mark of a professional. However, seeing as we have so many people who improperly wear their uniforms, or walk through the terminal with the ipods hanging out of their ears while luging their bright yellow backpacks... why should anybody expect professionalism. It's a lost art.
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As a "professional" pilot you (we) should be practicing our profession at all times.... skimming over things, and glossing over an ATIS is not the mark of a professional. However, seeing as we have so many people who improperly wear their uniforms, or walk through the terminal with the ipods hanging out of their ears while luging their bright yellow backpacks... why should anybody expect professionalism. It's a lost art.
Hey lighten up a bit....this thread was posted to just to give people a heads up....not tear into people. Do you meticulously read EVERY Notam on a release before every flight?
01-19-2009 | 11:59 AM
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01-19-2009 | 02:06 PM
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Goos Lesson Learned !
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Anyway my point is...if the snow is coming down...please read the full ATIS...Im sure most of you are good enough to land in conditions like that.....but if something stupid happens....the first thing the FEDs are gonna ask is why did you attempt to land with NIL breaking action?
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Flyboy:
Thanks for the post. There is a good lesson in your experience and I'll use it in recurrent class. You're right on with your "what if...".
BTW, a LOT of carriers have restrictions in their FOM that states landing with "nil breaking" reports is prohibited. As you stated...not a good thing to try and even if one just slides off the hard surface.
G'Day Mate
Anyway my point is...if the snow is coming down...please read the full ATIS...Im sure most of you are good enough to land in conditions like that.....but if something stupid happens....the first thing the FEDs are gonna ask is why did you attempt to land with NIL breaking action?
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Flyboy:
Thanks for the post. There is a good lesson in your experience and I'll use it in recurrent class. You're right on with your "what if...".
BTW, a LOT of carriers have restrictions in their FOM that states landing with "nil breaking" reports is prohibited. As you stated...not a good thing to try and even if one just slides off the hard surface.
G'Day Mate
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01-19-2009 | 02:12 PM
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Keep 'Em Open
01-19-2009 | 05:48 PM
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Actually, yes. Don't you? It is your job, it is clearly defined in your company manual, it is expected by the FAA, and is owed to each and every pax in back. Let me guess, your one of those guys that does 25 minute turns right? You know the ones.... the CA looked at the AML so I don't have to.... the FO programmed the FMS, so I don't have to check it...
Our tasks are clearly defined, if that results in delayed departure times, then they will have to add more time to perform all the required crew functions and duties.
Frankly I was a bit surprised by this thread. This partial reading and glossing over is the stuff that leads to accidents/incidents and violations.
It is not the mark of a professional and the fact that it apparently is happening is concerning.
To answer your question. Yes, I do review the entire release, to include notams. Flying since 1983.... 25 accident/incident and violation free years. Can I do all my tasks in a 25 minute turn... yes.... but that leaves no time for a restroom call, snack break or other human issues. If any of the above happen, and it was a 25 minute turn, then it goes out late. Safety is our number one responsibility... not on time departures.
