It's a scam and it always was a scam to separate starry-eyed kids from their (or their lender's) money with no promise for a job. What are CAPT placement rates? My guess is that they're just as horrendous now as they were when the program started. Not that I'm at all a fan of PFT but who would sign up for this when FlightSafety has a program that guarantees you a job BEFORE you put the money down? It's too bad that old 'CAPT is crap' website is down now, it set the record straight. CAPT is almost as bad as Gulfstream Academy...

 

CAPTs placement rates were over 90% over the life of the program.

The dirty little secret of the training industry is that placement rates have less to do with the actual program and all to do with whether the majors and thereby the regionals are currently hiring. IF NO ONES HIRING, NO ONE GETS PLACED!

And for the record, the CAPT that prepared students to be hired by a regional airline no longer exists...it is now a school for Chinese flight students. They are two DIFFERENT animals. This flying Ninja dude is a bitter disgruntled failed graduate who can't seem to let go of the fact that he choked! He still complains about the program as though it still existed. IT DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE.

 

Ditto what SilkySmooth said...it's a completely different school than that which he had troubles with!

 

Good points, I was talking about the Riddle CAPT program. It just ****es me off that these 'upstanding institutions' can get away with advertising their so- called airline preparatory programs when at the current time there are simply no jobs to be had. There are seriously kids who are forking out tens of thousands of borrowed dollars walking around the Riddle campus saying "Oh I'm going to ASA when I graduate in May". (And yes that's a true story...)

 

Not ripping on you JT8D but I went to Riddle and never thought for a second I was guaranteed a job when I finished. I'm sure there were kids on campus that thought that. Just so everyone is clear on this, the CAPT program took people who already had degrees and wanted to switch careers. I don't know of any "kid" who already had that. Either way with a little research on the original posters part, would have discovered that 100,000 and an "interview" vs. spending 70,000 roughly to get everything and a CFI "just in case" would have been alot smarter. Now years later after the program has failed and he continues to rip the program..........whats your point? If anyone remembers all he had across the bottom of every message was 400tt 100multi Summa, blah blah blah. Never was it educational info for others telling them to stay away from Riddle. Until about a week ago we he added stay away from CAPT. AGAIN GROW UP AND MOVE ON ITS OVER!!

 

Oh I realize that not everyone who goes to riddle is like that. I just find it um... somewhat less than honest on the school's part that given the current state of our industry they do nothing to quell the 'regional airline-bound' mentality that some kids there have. Fact is, they're still charging several grand for a CRJ prep course.

 

Ahh, yes I remember that class. It was a requirement for an Aeronautical Science degree but I have to say it did a good job showing me what I should expect from an airline training program and I never flew the CRJ. Other than that it was a complete waste of money. I would agree with you on Riddle still telling kids if they go there they can go onto the airlines because something like 1 in 3 airline pilots are Riddle grads. Total BS.

 

DNwiskey,
While I applaud the fact you probably got into NK because you went to riddle and had a 3.0 or greater GPA ( just an assumption, please prove me wrong ) I can say, with great certainty, that the training for the CRJ course at Riddle was harder than the training at any regional, and that will include multiple regionals flying other airframes. The instructors there treated us like we were in an airline training course from day 1, and it was great to see because it washed out people who did not take it seriously right from the get-go. It is a heavily priced course, but it is the culmination of your curiculum at ERAU, if you did everything there, and should be treated as such. Match any Thesis Class to the CRJ course and you will see the same price, albeit those SOB's are making 10X more than we ever will and destroying communitities in the process, but who said anyone ever got into business to be ethical in the first place ?

 

In my new hire class, roughly 15 out of 20 of us were hired because we had taken a "Jet Transition" course. In fact, if you had a total time under 700 hours (which about half did), it seems likely you wouldn't have received an interview without it. Obviously the folks in the hiring/training department felt it was an important ingredient to being successful in training. So in that sense, if it got you the interview that much sooner (timing is everything), then maybe it was worth it.

 

Pretty close to the GPA but I hope I was hired based on my previous airline experience as a captain and not just because my resume said Riddle. I would like to think the course didn't hurt me to get my job at Skyway though.

Jetpipe I like your quote at the bottom.