Is ASA really getting a CRJ 900?!?!
 

Don't believe it until it is on property!

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Now discuss!

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On a side note.....I heard on the employee bus the other day CRJ-900's are not Cat 2 certified. Is this true?

Looks nice glad to see asa getting some planes

Wow, that's a nice shiny looking -9! I hear it even has first class.

How much are you getting paid again to fly that thing?

Yes they are not CAT II certified

Here's the -9 F/O payscale:

Yr Rate
1..............$52
2..............$72
3..............$84
4..............$86
5..............$88
6..............$90

That's enough for now, since it will change again in 2010, 2011, 2012...


Oh, wait you meant the CRJ-900 regional jet, right?:rolleyes:

Wow, no Cat II?!? I hear that Mesaba's superior "9's" are all equipped with Cat IIIB autoland.

Seriously though, the CR9 is a great aircraft when configured with only 76 seats. Enjoy the climb.

WOW, 2 FMS's and not CAT II? I'd imagine that SKW will shell out the money soon to take care of that minor problem. Not even our CR9's have 2 FMS’s; they must think highly of an ASA FO since the 4200 has a history of cross-locking. Maybe DAL has some island flying planned for them.

Are the pay rates any different for the 900?

Will this bring back furloughs?

No Cat 2 is strange with Dual FMS ......Only 1 switch on the fire detection panel.....Auto bleed transfer I hear.....I wonder if the temp control actually works or if it's still like the 200....Hot or Cold. Either way it looks good.

Bombardier will no longer deliver CRJ900 aircraft with single FMS configuration. Trust me, if it was optional, Comair's 900's wouldn't have two. They'd only have one oxygen mask if they could get away with it.

No to both questions. I think it actually caused furloughs. Didn't they trade 10 "-9s" for 20 Crj200s?

Deal or No Deal? ;)

The temp controllers work great in both the CR7 & 9. I think an American went up there and told them that cold air doesn't raise and slap some quality recirc fans on her.

Yes they do have Auto Bleed Xfer. It's a nice "idiot" reminder after T/O at 1500 if you forgot to shutdown the APU.

It didn't cause the "F's" because those CR2's don't start coming off line until 2Q2010, if anything it prolonged larger cuts. Hopefully the economy will rebound and they’ll have a pickup in attrition to offset, regardless to bought them another year.

From what I understand when 9E ordered there first 200's we tried getting them with no FMS but Bombardier wouldn't have it.....hahaha. Talk about Cheap and they weren't even the buyers :eek:

JO did the same at Mesa. Just look up front in the majority of their CR2's and you'll see just how much JO cares about his pilots, he wouldn't even spring for the better pilot seats. :confused: I still can't believe how crappy those things are. Not that the ones in the pic are that high of Q.

The "F's" came due to very low block hour utilization of aircraft for 2009. Had the 900s not come all 140ish pilots not protected by the contract would have been pinkslipped.

As far as CATII the airplane just came straight out of the factory. There has to be an FAA approved training program and everybody has to be trained before we're signed off. Lots of work still to do in the coming month before the plane goes into revenue service. They even flew it all the way from KBTV at FL280 because its not certified for RVSM yet.

That's what I figured. Thankx.

Once I flew from ATL to HOU at FL240 (due to a/c restrictions) all while working our way around a hurricane. Instead of our normal route down toward GCV-AEX-ROKIT9-HOU and across we went ATL-BNA-MEM-SHV-LFK-ROKIT9-HOU. That was a long flight and a lot of work ducking and weaving.

I highly doubt that is the F/O pay scale. 6 years and they are making more than a Captain at most regionals....no way.

He posted mainlines pay scale for the real -9, the DC-9.

I think he was listing a DC-9 payscale or something. Making a jab.

I knew that they would get the 900. That's one nice looking bird.:)




atp

I agree, Americans are the only ones to know how to build airplanes. This seems a bit funny since we are all flying, Canadian, Brazilian, Swedish, French airplanes.

...Mostly Canadian,
Vive la Quebec Libre :eek:

I like how the new seats aren't covered in ass sweat:)

Long Live Boeing and the airlines that prefer to operate them!

I love seeing the stickers that say:

"If it ain't Boeing, I’m not going!"

JCMusser: If It Ain't Boeing Sticker

That's because they are't certified CAT II on the ASA certificate. We're dealing with the government here, it takes time...

I agree with you for the most part, but if you ever see Avro Vulcan, Spitfire, and/or Bf-109 flying, you won't say that again

if asa isn't getting any 900's then the party on monday is going to be really short. :)

P-51 P-38 P-40 F-4U I would take these AMERICAN planes over the ones you listed anyday!
CHECK and MATE

I hear ya, I think people are confused with this aircraft being "equipped" opposed to "certified" for Cat II ops. It's surely equipped and if I read the tech brief correctly it has lower Cat II mins than the other aircraft at ASA. All aircraft have to be certified by the company and FAA when they are excepted. So I'm sure they'll work that out, no need to worry.

Hmmm those look like CRJ 1000 FO rates:rolleyes: since it is virtually as big as DC-9... Oh wait thats right thats a main line airplane any way (104 seats) unless some one creates an alter ego (Transtates) and creates a whole new regional using 1000:eek:


Bronco ready for BReck?

Why is it strange? FMS has nothing to do with cat II

What aircraft number are they up to now? Looks like 15217?

The Mesaba CRJ900s are Cat II. Currently we are at 1600RVR and DH of 100ft. One more step to go for "full CAT II". Yes it is a lot of government red tape to get this done. We had to start out demonstrating Cat II procedures down to 1800 RVR and 200 DH for I believe it was 4 months and a minimum of 50 successful approaches. Now we are in the second phase to the lower mins with the same time frame. We are also just starting to do the same for the CRJ200s. Though I hear the Saabs will not be going CAT II.
If we install the HUD's we would be able to do the CAT III like Horizon does but I doubt we will ever get around to that.

Can't you do CAT I down to 1800 RVR with the right equipment? (Flight Director among other things?)
The CAT II should bring you down to 1200 RVR if I am not mistaken.

Right in both cases...Avroman was trying to explain the process an airline has to go through to get Cat II authorization. It's a 3 stage process, and you must successfully complete each stage before moving onto the next which allows lower mins. Ultimately 1200 rvr after final certification. All crews need specific training, aircraft need to be individually certified, and required equipment must be working in order to shoot the approach.

Yup..........

I was wondering that myself.....unless he means that since they spent extra money on all the bells and whistles he's surprised they didn't go all the way and spend the money on Cat 2 cert.

Everyone at ASA salivating and beating their chests over the arrival of "the nine" are lame, lame, lame. Hello, folks, IT'S STILL AN RJ! It has 6 more seats, and you get paid the SAME to fly it. GET OVER IT!