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#21
Originally Posted by rickair7777
Yeah, Orlando. Can anyone say ATA lol
Thanks
#22
Originally Posted by ryane946
Hey rickair. I remember hearing about ATA going under, but I don't really know any details beyond that. Do you have a good idea of what happened? I heard some people lost LOTS of money!
Thanks
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When 9/11 hit things went downhill real fast...but naturally they continued to accept new students and take their money too. One day the students came in and the doors were chained shut...they went BK and got sued by everybody, and I think there was law enforcement involvement too. I hope the entire Williams family ended up in jail.
#23
Originally Posted by rickair7777
I hope the entire Williams family ended up in jail.
And as for a year and a few months ago the FBI was unable to locate them.
#25
I cannot tell you as much about Mesa Pilot Development as I can about other academies, but I just want to throw out two ideas to consider before you consider Mesa's program:
1. Have you ever been to Farmington, New Mexico? Well if you haven't, then I would recommend keeping it that way. Do you want to spend 2 years of your life there???
2. Do you have a college degree?
If yes, Mesa is a bad idea. It takes longer than most the other pay for training paths (2 years) because you receive a 2 year degree from San Juan College.
If no, then go get a real 4 year degree. First off, many major airlines require a 4 year degree. Second, you should have a backup career incase you get furloughed from an airline job (and it may happen). Having a 4 year degree is the highest recommendation I can give.
There is a really good thread about this called Information on MPD. It is at the bottom of page 2 (or check the top of page 3) of the regional forum. Read that!
All the other things aside (high cost, flying for mesa, Farmington, NM), the fact that their program is linked to a 2 year AA degree is the worst part of this program. I would not recommend this.
1. Have you ever been to Farmington, New Mexico? Well if you haven't, then I would recommend keeping it that way. Do you want to spend 2 years of your life there???
2. Do you have a college degree?
If yes, Mesa is a bad idea. It takes longer than most the other pay for training paths (2 years) because you receive a 2 year degree from San Juan College.
If no, then go get a real 4 year degree. First off, many major airlines require a 4 year degree. Second, you should have a backup career incase you get furloughed from an airline job (and it may happen). Having a 4 year degree is the highest recommendation I can give.
There is a really good thread about this called Information on MPD. It is at the bottom of page 2 (or check the top of page 3) of the regional forum. Read that!
All the other things aside (high cost, flying for mesa, Farmington, NM), the fact that their program is linked to a 2 year AA degree is the worst part of this program. I would not recommend this.
#26
Originally Posted by ryane946
If no, then go get a real 4 year degree. First off, many major airlines require a 4 year degree. Second, you should have a backup career incase you get furloughed from an airline job (and it may happen). Having a 4 year degree is the highest recommendation I can give.
#27
Well I disagree with the experience thing with respect to engineering because ALL my friends who graduated with an aerospace degree, who want a job in that industry, currently have one. Sure, some of us did some internships, but some people I know had no experience. To use your example, I have a friend Katherine working on the dreamliner at Boeing, and she probably makes more than I do!
But, there is really no reference to that in my above post. All I said (what you quoted) was that you absolutely should get a 4 year degree.
Two reasons:
1. You NEED one to get hired by a good major airline. PERIOD!
2. You better have a backup if you are going into a volatile industry like aviation.
Other reasons include...oh, I don't know...
It will be the best time of your life
Looks better than HS degree on ANY resume
You will learn more there than you ever will anywhere else
There are some other good ones, but I think you get my point.
If you are young, and you want to fly for a living (and make decent money), you should get a 4 year college degree.
But, there is really no reference to that in my above post. All I said (what you quoted) was that you absolutely should get a 4 year degree.
Two reasons:
1. You NEED one to get hired by a good major airline. PERIOD!
2. You better have a backup if you are going into a volatile industry like aviation.
Other reasons include...oh, I don't know...
It will be the best time of your life
Looks better than HS degree on ANY resume
You will learn more there than you ever will anywhere else
There are some other good ones, but I think you get my point.
If you are young, and you want to fly for a living (and make decent money), you should get a 4 year college degree.
#28
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Posts: 762
Originally Posted by ryane946
Well I disagree with the experience thing with respect to engineering because ALL my friends who graduated with an aerospace degree, who want a job in that industry, currently have one. Sure, some of us did some internships, but some people I know had no experience. To use your example, I have a friend Katherine working on the dreamliner at Boeing, and she probably makes more than I do!
But, there is really no reference to that in my above post. All I said (what you quoted) was that you absolutely should get a 4 year degree.
Two reasons:
1. You NEED one to get hired by a good major airline. PERIOD!
2. You better have a backup if you are going into a volatile industry like aviation.
Other reasons include...oh, I don't know...
It will be the best time of your life
Looks better than HS degree on ANY resume
You will learn more there than you ever will anywhere else
There are some other good ones, but I think you get my point.
If you are young, and you want to fly for a living (and make decent money), you should get a 4 year college degree.
But, there is really no reference to that in my above post. All I said (what you quoted) was that you absolutely should get a 4 year degree.
Two reasons:
1. You NEED one to get hired by a good major airline. PERIOD!
2. You better have a backup if you are going into a volatile industry like aviation.
Other reasons include...oh, I don't know...
It will be the best time of your life
Looks better than HS degree on ANY resume
You will learn more there than you ever will anywhere else
There are some other good ones, but I think you get my point.
If you are young, and you want to fly for a living (and make decent money), you should get a 4 year college degree.
I dont think he was arguing that you shouldn't get a degree, he was just saying that having a degree in a different field is not a valid backup unless you switch within 2-3 years, after that what your degree says is worthless because you haven't used it and you are no longer current with the industry. All it is, is a 4 year degree.
#30
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Posts: 584
There could be some exceptions to that, such as if your degree is non-aviation, but closely involved with aviation. The perfect example is a meteorology degree, which I'm currently working on at Rutgers. Weather is a major part of flying, from sport pilot on up. In alot of ways, I use the stuff I learned in my meteo classes when I'm doing my weather planning. In general, a pilot with a meteorology degree is a great thing, as is a meteorologist who happens to have a pilots license. So if one gets furloughed they could take their meteorology degree and their years of real world piloting experience, and go into aviation meteorology, at a company like Meteorlogix, AccuWeather, etc. In general though, there are very very few degree fields that allow for that, and meteorology is a very difficult, math-intense major.
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