Any New AWAC news??
02-10-2009 | 02:13 PM
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A certain airline not to be named SUCKS.
02-10-2009 | 02:29 PM
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Again, your post is full of inaccuracies. So here's a little history lesson, just for you:
The owners did not screw us because they knew UAL wasn't going to renew our contract with them. What they did was make UAL pay AWAC at the old rates, with the excess over the new contract going into an escrow account. This money was supposed to go to UAL, in the event that UAL chose to affirm AWAC's contract. In the even that UAL didn't, it was to go to AWAC. In the meantime though, the AWAC pilots were getting paid under the subsequent concessionary contract.
We got screwed because we didn't get an affirmed contract with UAL, the owners pocketed the money and we found out we never had an affirmed contract which was the basis for us taking concessions. The owners never thought UAL would get rid of us but in the end the opportunity to make a deal with USAir came along and they made about $450 million out of it.
There is only one thing I have complete faith in the owners for and that is their ability to make money. Other than that, I don't trust them any further than I could kick them, And I'm not sure why you think I do trust them, considering I didn't say it.
The owners did not screw us because they knew UAL wasn't going to renew our contract with them. What they did was make UAL pay AWAC at the old rates, with the excess over the new contract going into an escrow account. This money was supposed to go to UAL, in the event that UAL chose to affirm AWAC's contract. In the even that UAL didn't, it was to go to AWAC. In the meantime though, the AWAC pilots were getting paid under the subsequent concessionary contract.
We got screwed because we didn't get an affirmed contract with UAL, the owners pocketed the money and we found out we never had an affirmed contract which was the basis for us taking concessions. The owners never thought UAL would get rid of us but in the end the opportunity to make a deal with USAir came along and they made about $450 million out of it.
There is only one thing I have complete faith in the owners for and that is their ability to make money. Other than that, I don't trust them any further than I could kick them, And I'm not sure why you think I do trust them, considering I didn't say it.
02-10-2009 | 02:58 PM
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Blkflyer did you interview here and get the thanks, but no thanks letter? What is your problem? You don't work here, and we don't hire folks with that kind of mentality...This thread is not about the past but the future of AWAC. If you don't have anything regarding that please don't post things that don't matter to anyone but you. Thankyou from your neighborhood AWAC FO
02-10-2009 | 05:24 PM
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Blkflyer did you interview here and get the thanks, but no thanks letter? What is your problem? You don't work here, and we don't hire folks with that kind of mentality...This thread is not about the past but the future of AWAC. If you don't have anything regarding that please don't post things that don't matter to anyone but you. Thankyou from your neighborhood AWAC FO
Wasnt Blkflyer a TSA furlough turned Gojet?
02-10-2009 | 06:10 PM
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Some haters may say we lost the Midwest contract etc, but at the end of the day I'll bet one of two things; they either got rejected by AWAC or they are ****ed that our management treats us decently while they are treated like trash.....
02-10-2009 | 06:33 PM
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From: Canadair Gosh
Geez,
Lots of cranky people out there, I am just happy as a puppy with two peters to be recalled next week.
I think the bean counters at AWAC planned ahead by furloughing early. We are recalling pilots now while other airlines are just now starting to furlough.
Now what airline do you think knows what they are doing? The one furloughing, or the one recalling?
Lots of cranky people out there, I am just happy as a puppy with two peters to be recalled next week.
I think the bean counters at AWAC planned ahead by furloughing early. We are recalling pilots now while other airlines are just now starting to furlough.
Now what airline do you think knows what they are doing? The one furloughing, or the one recalling?
02-10-2009 | 06:40 PM
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[QUOTE=whoareyou310;556124]Blkflyer did you interview here and get the thanks, but no thanks letter? What is your problem? You don't work here, and we don't hire folks with that kind of mentality...This thread is not about the past but the future of AWAC. If you don't have anything regarding that please don't post things that don't matter to anyone but you. Thankyou from your neighborhood AWAC FO[/QUOT
Why do you ask.. do you think that your REGIONAL is better than Mine is thy way.. GET a life AWAC is still a REGIONAL...
Why do you ask.. do you think that your REGIONAL is better than Mine is thy way.. GET a life AWAC is still a REGIONAL...
02-10-2009 | 06:42 PM
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02-10-2009 | 07:29 PM
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Blkflyer did you interview here and get the thanks, but no thanks letter? What is your problem? You don't work here, and we don't hire folks with that kind of mentality...This thread is not about the past but the future of AWAC. If you don't have anything regarding that please don't post things that don't matter to anyone but you. Thankyou from your neighborhood AWAC FO
10-28-2008, 02:42 PM Position: CRJ-200 FO
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It sucks here right now....I wish I had gone somewhere else..
We will never grow...only the ground handling will.
YOU OWN WORDS... oh yea thanks for the ADVICE and personal attacks
02-10-2009 | 07:37 PM
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Flyboy Slow your Roll My comments were exactly the same comment you made on OCT 28 2008 let me nudge your memory...
Despite all our Furloughed Pilots and Downgraded Capts due to our "Reduced Flying"....its still damn near impossible to drop anything...it know its worse on the Capt. side.....yet Mgmt. still wants 16 more Capt's to take COLA
We will NEVER grow under our own power.....Our Company is just waiting for Mesa to tank so we can get a piece of the Action.
Not much else.....Mgmt. is also trying to stuff PBS down our throats by making our schedules complete garbage.
Now I say the same thing and suddenly I am considered somehow clueless.
Your words flyboy not mine. seems like some of us have volatile short term memory...
Despite all our Furloughed Pilots and Downgraded Capts due to our "Reduced Flying"....its still damn near impossible to drop anything...it know its worse on the Capt. side.....yet Mgmt. still wants 16 more Capt's to take COLA
We will NEVER grow under our own power.....Our Company is just waiting for Mesa to tank so we can get a piece of the Action.
Not much else.....Mgmt. is also trying to stuff PBS down our throats by making our schedules complete garbage.
Now I say the same thing and suddenly I am considered somehow clueless.
Your words flyboy not mine. seems like some of us have volatile short term memory...
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