Any New AWAC news??
02-10-2009 | 07:43 PM
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Blkflyer,
I'm not going to bash you but simply ask a question or two. This thread is called "Any New AWAC News", so far all you've done is try and stir the pot and attempt to talk trash about the company, what are you trying to accomplish? Are you trying to put down AWAC so you feel better about your career decisions? Are you jelious of the pilot group at AWAC? Or are you just hateful in all aspects of your life? Not trying to citicize you, just trying to better understand where you're comming from.
I'm not going to bash you but simply ask a question or two. This thread is called "Any New AWAC News", so far all you've done is try and stir the pot and attempt to talk trash about the company, what are you trying to accomplish? Are you trying to put down AWAC so you feel better about your career decisions? Are you jelious of the pilot group at AWAC? Or are you just hateful in all aspects of your life? Not trying to citicize you, just trying to better understand where you're comming from.
02-10-2009 | 07:44 PM
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This used to be a normal thread...
I sense a thread lock coming on.
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If you want to argue on the internet, do it via PM's.
Arguing on the internet is like something something something.
02-10-2009 | 07:54 PM
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Again, your post is full of inaccuracies. So here's a little history lesson, just for you:
The owners did not screw us because they knew UAL wasn't going to renew our contract with them. What they did was make UAL pay AWAC at the old rates, with the excess over the new contract going into an escrow account. This money was supposed to go to UAL, in the event that UAL chose to affirm AWAC's contract. In the even that UAL didn't, it was to go to AWAC. In the meantime though, the AWAC pilots were getting paid under the subsequent concessionary contract.
We got screwed because we didn't get an affirmed contract with UAL, the owners pocketed the money and we found out we never had an affirmed contract which was the basis for us taking concessions. The owners never thought UAL would get rid of us but in the end the opportunity to make a deal with USAir came along and they made about $450 million out of it.
There is only one thing I have complete faith in the owners for and that is their ability to make money. Other than that, I don't trust them any further than I could kick them, And I'm not sure why you think I do trust them, considering I didn't say it.
The owners did not screw us because they knew UAL wasn't going to renew our contract with them. What they did was make UAL pay AWAC at the old rates, with the excess over the new contract going into an escrow account. This money was supposed to go to UAL, in the event that UAL chose to affirm AWAC's contract. In the even that UAL didn't, it was to go to AWAC. In the meantime though, the AWAC pilots were getting paid under the subsequent concessionary contract.
We got screwed because we didn't get an affirmed contract with UAL, the owners pocketed the money and we found out we never had an affirmed contract which was the basis for us taking concessions. The owners never thought UAL would get rid of us but in the end the opportunity to make a deal with USAir came along and they made about $450 million out of it.
There is only one thing I have complete faith in the owners for and that is their ability to make money. Other than that, I don't trust them any further than I could kick them, And I'm not sure why you think I do trust them, considering I didn't say it.
I stand corrected. Hey Kenny where can I get a Copy of the O level physics book by Abbott I have been looking for a copy I have not seen one in 20 years,
I stand by my post that a companies business model for growth should not be to wait for another company to go under. and it seems as if thats what AWAC management is doing
02-10-2009 | 07:57 PM
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AWAC certainly isn't the only company out there waiting for the demise of another...It's dirty. Almost cannibalistic...
02-10-2009 | 07:58 PM
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Blkflyer,
I'm not going to bash you but simply ask a question or two. This thread is called "Any New AWAC News", so far all you've done is try and stir the pot and attempt to talk trash about the company, what are you trying to accomplish? Are you trying to put down AWAC so you feel better about your career decisions? Are you jelious of the pilot group at AWAC? Or are you just hateful in all aspects of your life? Not trying to citicize you, just trying to better understand where you're comming from.
I'm not going to bash you but simply ask a question or two. This thread is called "Any New AWAC News", so far all you've done is try and stir the pot and attempt to talk trash about the company, what are you trying to accomplish? Are you trying to put down AWAC so you feel better about your career decisions? Are you jelious of the pilot group at AWAC? Or are you just hateful in all aspects of your life? Not trying to citicize you, just trying to better understand where you're comming from.
02-10-2009 | 08:03 PM
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From: 7ER B...whatever that means.
02-10-2009 | 08:06 PM
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Blkflyer,
Like I said before this thread is about the FUTURE of the company, not what someone said months ago, why you dislike the company or anything along those lines..... It's about the FUTURE (Definition: The form of a verb used in speaking of action that has not yet occurred or of states not yet in existence), so lets try and talk about that......
Like I said before this thread is about the FUTURE of the company, not what someone said months ago, why you dislike the company or anything along those lines..... It's about the FUTURE (Definition: The form of a verb used in speaking of action that has not yet occurred or of states not yet in existence), so lets try and talk about that......
02-10-2009 | 08:10 PM
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02-10-2009 | 08:16 PM
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Blkflyer,
Like I said before this thread is about the FUTURE of the company, not what someone said months ago, why you dislike the company or anything along those lines..... It's about the FUTURE (Definition: The form of a verb used in speaking of action that has not yet occurred or of states not yet in existence), so lets try and talk about that......
Like I said before this thread is about the FUTURE of the company, not what someone said months ago, why you dislike the company or anything along those lines..... It's about the FUTURE (Definition: The form of a verb used in speaking of action that has not yet occurred or of states not yet in existence), so lets try and talk about that......
I dont dislike AWAC no where did I ever said that. I am simply saying that waiting on a company to fail in order to grow is not prudent at all.. too many what Ifs. think about this what IF Mesa somehow stays afloat and Airways have them for a few more years does that mean that all the AWAC FOs on Furlough stay on Furlough, just a thought
02-10-2009 | 08:27 PM
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I think it's kind of like knowing your girlfriend has a huge backside, yet it's still rude and immature for some random guy to state the claim. Unless you're somehow related to AWAC, I'd stay out of it. Most of my friends at Wisky made 45-50K during their sophomore year, which is certainly more than some other regionals who operate larger equipment.
EVERY regional has its issues, but arguing that a company - a privately held company - that you don't work for is "too expensive" is laughable. Shame on AWAC for having semi-reasonable rates and work rules. How dare they, right?
EVERY regional has its issues, but arguing that a company - a privately held company - that you don't work for is "too expensive" is laughable. Shame on AWAC for having semi-reasonable rates and work rules. How dare they, right?
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