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Old 02-11-2009 | 07:06 AM
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". . . any further increase above 153 76-seat jets will require substantial mainline fleet growth. For example, for the Company to add a 154th 76-seat jet, the mainline would have to be comprised of 768 mainline jets. Today the mainline fleet consists of 753 aircraft."

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Delta purchases 36 CRJ1000s for mainline pushing 753 to 789. In the process Delta negotiates a "final" regional scope limit of 99 seats. Everything 100 or above will belong to mainline.
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Old 02-11-2009 | 07:13 AM
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CRJ1000's. . .ugh.

What a waste this profession is going to be.
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Old 02-11-2009 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Ftrooppilot
". . . any further increase above 153 76-seat jets will require substantial mainline fleet growth. For example, for the Company to add a 154th 76-seat jet, the mainline would have to be comprised of 768 mainline jets. Today the mainline fleet consists of 753 aircraft."

Projection: (From previous post)

Delta purchases 36 CRJ1000s for mainline pushing 753 to 789. In the process Delta negotiates a "final" regional scope limit of 99 seats. Everything 100 or above will belong to mainline.
Isn't Delta getting 19 more 777 this summer? This sucks as an RJ guy you ride the whipsaw roller coaster with the hope that you will make it to the majors. Now what.....RJ life it is I guess...this sucks!!!
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Old 02-11-2009 | 07:57 AM
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[quote=RiddleEagle18;556539]DAL pilots just signed a LOA with the company now allowing 152 76 seat airplanes as apposed to 120. Let the fighting begin for new airframes.

I do not like the agreement but lets try and be at least factual. The agreement Delta signed does not allow a single additional airframe.
The company and DALPA were in disagreement on the current scope clause. The company felt it allowed them a larger number of aircraft with 76 seats verses having them restricted to 70. The dispute was over seat numbers not airframes. Dalpa maintained that there position was the company was currently limited to 127 aircraft with the extra 6 seats. The company had a higher number. (156) A grievance was filed. DALPA reached a settlement with the company that provided two main points for DALPA. The company agreed that DALPA's method of determining the number of 76 seat airframes would be used for all future calculations. The company also agreed that if any pilots hired after 01 were furloughed the additional aircraft allowed the 6 extra seats would be converted back to 70 seats.

The company can keep the current aircraft with 76 seats in service.
There are a couple of key points. If this went to arbitration the company could use the aircraft until a ruling. It is likely that by the summer of 10 the company would have been in compliance with aircraft coming and could have the aircraft anyway. What the company got in the end was the right to operate 19 aircraft with 6 additional seats for perhaps a year. Had we won the arbitration however it was felt that the arbitrator might not force them to remove the seats anyway and the company would be within months of compliance regardless.
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Old 02-11-2009 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SkiboyOO7
Isn't Delta getting 19 more 777 this summer? This sucks as an RJ guy you ride the whipsaw roller coaster with the hope that you will make it to the majors. Now what.....RJ life it is I guess...this sucks!!!
19? no, like 2 or 3
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Old 02-11-2009 | 09:13 AM
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Just reinforces that the Delta ALPA is just a company owned union now. When you sell it cheap, you're a *****. When you give it away like this, you're a slut.
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Old 02-11-2009 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Ftrooppilot
". . . any further increase above 153 76-seat jets will require substantial mainline fleet growth. For example, for the Company to add a 154th 76-seat jet, the mainline would have to be comprised of 768 mainline jets. Today the mainline fleet consists of 753 aircraft."

Projection: (From previous post)

Delta purchases 36 CRJ1000s for mainline pushing 753 to 789. In the process Delta negotiates a "final" regional scope limit of 99 seats. Everything 100 or above will belong to mainline.
How many seats does CRJ1000 configured for with the First Class seats?

I don't think there are any RJs out there in SERVICE that has more seats than CRJ900 at the moment and CRJ900 for DAL is configured for 76 seats.
So if CRJ1000 are ordered for the DAL mainline, which would be a really good thing, what RJ has seats between the CRJ900 and the CRJ1000?
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Old 02-11-2009 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DAL4EVER
Agreed. Its totally pathetic. I'm in utter disbelief that we could do this with no input from any line pilot.
Agreed!! I challenge every pilot, mainline or regional, to email lee noam and express your opinions. He is definitly not acting in the best interests of the pilots he "represents".
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Old 02-11-2009 | 09:46 AM
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Can you guys do a recall vote / impeachment vote on your MEC elected officials?

That guy is in bed with the company. Don't be surprised if he's offered a management position once he ruins your contract.
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Old 02-11-2009 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by king10pin02
19? no, like 2 or 3

There are 3 777 LR arriving late March. A additional 3 aircraft will be delivered in Apr, May and June. 2 More will arrive in Jan of 10 for a total of 8 at the moment. There are also 5 more 737-700's arriving this Spring and summer.
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