DAL pilot just relieved 76 seat scope again!
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". . . any further increase above 153 76-seat jets will require substantial mainline fleet growth. For example, for the Company to add a 154th 76-seat jet, the mainline would have to be comprised of 768 mainline jets. Today the mainline fleet consists of 753 aircraft."
Projection: (From previous post)
Delta purchases 36 CRJ1000s for mainline pushing 753 to 789. In the process Delta negotiates a "final" regional scope limit of 99 seats. Everything 100 or above will belong to mainline.
Projection: (From previous post)
Delta purchases 36 CRJ1000s for mainline pushing 753 to 789. In the process Delta negotiates a "final" regional scope limit of 99 seats. Everything 100 or above will belong to mainline.
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". . . any further increase above 153 76-seat jets will require substantial mainline fleet growth. For example, for the Company to add a 154th 76-seat jet, the mainline would have to be comprised of 768 mainline jets. Today the mainline fleet consists of 753 aircraft."
Projection: (From previous post)
Delta purchases 36 CRJ1000s for mainline pushing 753 to 789. In the process Delta negotiates a "final" regional scope limit of 99 seats. Everything 100 or above will belong to mainline.
Projection: (From previous post)
Delta purchases 36 CRJ1000s for mainline pushing 753 to 789. In the process Delta negotiates a "final" regional scope limit of 99 seats. Everything 100 or above will belong to mainline.
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[quote=RiddleEagle18;556539]DAL pilots just signed a LOA with the company now allowing 152 76 seat airplanes as apposed to 120. Let the fighting begin for new airframes.
I do not like the agreement but lets try and be at least factual. The agreement Delta signed does not allow a single additional airframe.
The company and DALPA were in disagreement on the current scope clause. The company felt it allowed them a larger number of aircraft with 76 seats verses having them restricted to 70. The dispute was over seat numbers not airframes. Dalpa maintained that there position was the company was currently limited to 127 aircraft with the extra 6 seats. The company had a higher number. (156) A grievance was filed. DALPA reached a settlement with the company that provided two main points for DALPA. The company agreed that DALPA's method of determining the number of 76 seat airframes would be used for all future calculations. The company also agreed that if any pilots hired after 01 were furloughed the additional aircraft allowed the 6 extra seats would be converted back to 70 seats.
The company can keep the current aircraft with 76 seats in service.
There are a couple of key points. If this went to arbitration the company could use the aircraft until a ruling. It is likely that by the summer of 10 the company would have been in compliance with aircraft coming and could have the aircraft anyway. What the company got in the end was the right to operate 19 aircraft with 6 additional seats for perhaps a year. Had we won the arbitration however it was felt that the arbitrator might not force them to remove the seats anyway and the company would be within months of compliance regardless.
I do not like the agreement but lets try and be at least factual. The agreement Delta signed does not allow a single additional airframe.
The company and DALPA were in disagreement on the current scope clause. The company felt it allowed them a larger number of aircraft with 76 seats verses having them restricted to 70. The dispute was over seat numbers not airframes. Dalpa maintained that there position was the company was currently limited to 127 aircraft with the extra 6 seats. The company had a higher number. (156) A grievance was filed. DALPA reached a settlement with the company that provided two main points for DALPA. The company agreed that DALPA's method of determining the number of 76 seat airframes would be used for all future calculations. The company also agreed that if any pilots hired after 01 were furloughed the additional aircraft allowed the 6 extra seats would be converted back to 70 seats.
The company can keep the current aircraft with 76 seats in service.
There are a couple of key points. If this went to arbitration the company could use the aircraft until a ruling. It is likely that by the summer of 10 the company would have been in compliance with aircraft coming and could have the aircraft anyway. What the company got in the end was the right to operate 19 aircraft with 6 additional seats for perhaps a year. Had we won the arbitration however it was felt that the arbitrator might not force them to remove the seats anyway and the company would be within months of compliance regardless.
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". . . any further increase above 153 76-seat jets will require substantial mainline fleet growth. For example, for the Company to add a 154th 76-seat jet, the mainline would have to be comprised of 768 mainline jets. Today the mainline fleet consists of 753 aircraft."
Projection: (From previous post)
Delta purchases 36 CRJ1000s for mainline pushing 753 to 789. In the process Delta negotiates a "final" regional scope limit of 99 seats. Everything 100 or above will belong to mainline.
Projection: (From previous post)
Delta purchases 36 CRJ1000s for mainline pushing 753 to 789. In the process Delta negotiates a "final" regional scope limit of 99 seats. Everything 100 or above will belong to mainline.
I don't think there are any RJs out there in SERVICE that has more seats than CRJ900 at the moment and CRJ900 for DAL is configured for 76 seats.
So if CRJ1000 are ordered for the DAL mainline, which would be a really good thing, what RJ has seats between the CRJ900 and the CRJ1000?
#28
Agreed!! I challenge every pilot, mainline or regional, to email lee noam and express your opinions. He is definitly not acting in the best interests of the pilots he "represents".
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