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Old 02-16-2009 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ehaeckercfi
If the NTSB doesn't know if the de-icing system was working, what makes you think anybody on an online message board would know?
It's just the age of now, now, now and the hyped media. People need to make sense of something even if they can't so they'll just make up thing like they used the AP when they weren't supposed to and call it pilot error. End of story. If the NTSB doesn't know, no one does.
Old 02-16-2009 | 02:40 PM
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And it will be found out IN DUE TIME maybe after 2 years!!! This thing will be forgotten very quickly. If you want to help in the mean time, tell your media friends not to report anything that's not factual and to imply anything.

That is exactly what I am trying to do. However, I need facts and options to do that. THAT is why I have asked these questions. I can't believe I can't get the answer from anyone here. Amazing! Help me help this issue! Oh and I have used icywings as a call sign for years. I just happen to be logged in here for the first time. It has nothing to do with this accident. Maybe I should have used something different here signing up now but that is what I always use.
Old 02-16-2009 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by icywings
I am not saying anyone here would know. However, someone with Q flight time in Ice on approach would know that how often the system kicks off from low rpm and low pressure! Right? I just want to know how it happens and how often it happens to see if that is a possible option here. Again, that would clear the pilots. The NTSB said the system was working but the pilots noticed a significant build-up. WHY? If the system was working they wouldn't have a big build up...right? Ok, I guess they could right before the boots blow but they don't say that on the CVR.

Oh, the comment calling me an idiot is gone. Thank you! I am honestly on the pilots side! I am a pilot have two brothers that are pilots and am in a unique situation where I can get RIGHT into the ear of people at CNN and FOX. I don't mean some associate producer either.
That may be true, but dont expect anyone to take you serious with that screen name. A lot of people on this board personally knew someone who died, kind of a class-less choice buddy
Old 02-16-2009 | 02:44 PM
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I for one question any new member on APC forums these past few days. I am hesitant to give detailed info on the accident to someone who asks so many questions.

Also, what was the decision making process on choosing a name "icywings" days after ice sent my friend and others to their death. To me it is tasteless, and this is coming from someone with the screen name "The Juice"
Look me up on any other forum like Flight Aware or Flight info. I just end up using icywings11 when icywings is taken. You will find me. In fact, my email address even starts with icywings as it has for YEARS. I know BAD timing but I just didn't think about it. You want proof tell me how to do it and I will. I AM NOT WITH THE DAMN MEDIA. They drive me crazy.

I helped clarify a story a while back when they said 2 planes missed by only 900 feet. Yea, they were 900 feet apart in altitude but like 2 miles apart meaning they were much further then the 900 feet. CNN cleared that up after I told the person I know about it. The story died right there. Look it up if you don't believe me.
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Originally Posted by icywings
Oh and I have used icywings as a call sign for years. I just happen to be logged in here for the first time. It has nothing to do with this accident. Maybe I should have used something different here signing up now but that is what I always use.
WOW, you think so?

Tell me about your flying experience and what airlines you worked for? Should be easy for a non-media guy like you.

The screen name makes me sick, GET IT! Have some class and stop posting
Old 02-16-2009 | 02:46 PM
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That may be true, but dont expect anyone to take you serious with that screen name. A lot of people on this board personally knew someone who died, kind of a class-less choice buddy

Again, I am SOOOOOOO sorry about the name. I HONEST TO GOD didn't think about it as it is just normal for me to ALWAYS use it. I mean NO DISRESPECT AT ALL to ANYONE. I am real sorry... I just didn't think about it. It is just automatic for me with anything related to Aviation to use icywings or icywings11
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Icywings, I just reread your original post. There is nothing there that would contribute to making the media a little more responsible. Sounds like you are trying to find out the possible cause of crash. All the questions had to do with the pilots noticing something. All the questions were very basic in nature to which even someone with commercial flying experience can probably answer, doesn't have to be a Q driver, what are you implying?? Notice to the piots when the AP is trimming??? Notice to the pilot if there is not enough pressure for the boots???? You say you're a pilot?
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WOW, you think so?

Tell me about your flying experience and what airlines you worked for? Should be easy for a non-media guy like you.

The screen name makes me sick, GET IT! Have some class and stop posting
Take a look here at my profile on flight info. IF you don't believe it PM me there and I will reply. It will show you I have been a member since like 2002
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I have hours ranging from my first flight in a 172 to 400 hours or so in the Metroliner with Ameriflight. Both the expiditer and metro out of DFW, PHX, and BFI. I am not saying I am some big time pilot or anything. However, I AM saying I am NOT with the media.
Old 02-16-2009 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Purpleanga
Icywings, I just reread your original post. There is nothing there that would contribute to making the media a little more responsible. Sounds like you are trying to find out the possible cause of crash. All the questions had to do with the pilots noticing something. What are you implying??
Yes I am trying to provide other LEGIT explanations for the crash that ARE NOT pilot error.

If the Deice did malfunction how would they know if there is no indicator. Even if it did at that altitude and airspeed they would have no options anyway. That presents doubt in it being pilot error.

I am trying to show how if the AP was on or not it would make little difference and for them to stop focusing on it as a problem. Common sense would prevent them from letting the Ap pass the 40 pounds of pressure using the trim. They would hear it chirping away. Or maybe the chirp was not working and they had no idea. Again, clearing them of anything or at least getting the media to start focusing on other options. Like the Deice pressure failure problem.
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Originally Posted by icywings
I have flown the 727 and 737!
Originally Posted by icywings
I have hours ranging from my first flight in a 172 to 400 hours or so in the Metroliner with Ameriflight. Both the expiditer and metro out of DFW, PHX, and BFI. I am not saying I am some big time pilot or anything. However, I AM saying I am NOT with the media.
Funny, you forgot to mention your 727 and 737 time, just the 172 and metro time.

Good Bye Media Boy
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