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Old 02-26-2009, 09:31 AM
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Public perception never ceases to amaze me....

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Old 02-26-2009, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by fatmike69 View Post
Public perception never ceases to amaze me....

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Well of course we're going to end up reading something like that. I'm kinda surprised it took this long.

The media is going to say whatever they can to get a story out of the public. If they sense fear, they're going to pounce on it. If they sense anger they going to manipulate it. Just the way it goes. It sucks, but it doesn't surprise me a bit that an article that like was published.
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Yep, the lady at the end, who wouldn't fly the prop because of children in the cockpit, was the icing on the cake. Lady, if there is going to be a turbo prop accident, it probably wouldn't be under the skies of CA where the worst weather you can have is an overcast layer. Not to mention Skywest has never gone down because of pilot error.
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Does SkyWest even fly in the Northeast? I know they fly pretty as far as ORD, but I don't know how far east they actually went.
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Old 02-26-2009, 10:17 AM
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Does SkyWest even fly in the Northeast? I know they fly pretty as far as ORD, but I don't know how far east they actually went.
Skywest does CVG-PHL and I have seen them in JFK, all part of DAL not wanting one regional to dominate a market. Hmmm, I don't see Comair in SLC.
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i'm not sure what the article's point was but up until the last couple of paragraphs i think it's a pretty fair assessment that the general flying public have of flying on a regional - rightly or wrongly.

i fly on rj's because i have to. i'd prefer not too but that's me. the rj's are smaller. they are a little noisier (except for when you sit at the back of an md-80 ). and to be honest i too have noticed, that on a couple of occasions, the co-pilots have been young. this is not a knock on them but just what i have noticed. most don't realize the training that these guys go through and just see the 22 yr old guy programming the autopilot when boarding the plane. hence the public perception.
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they operate into cvg
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i'm not sure what the article's point was but up until the last couple of paragraphs i think it's a pretty fair assessment that the general flying public have of flying on a regional - rightly or wrongly.

i fly on rj's because i have to. i'd prefer not too but that's me. the rj's are smaller. they are a little noisier (except for when you sit at the back of an md-80 ). and to be honest i too have noticed, that on a couple of occasions, the co-pilots have been young. this is not a knock on them but just what i have noticed. most don't realize the training that these guys go through and just see the 22 yr old guy programming the autopilot when boarding the plane. hence the public perception.
I can understand this, what is offensive is when the public sees me (I just turned 24) and automatically thinks that they are unsafe. I worked extremely hard for the past 7 years since I started flying to get to where I am today. (Even though I am furloughed now...). I flew in all types of weather, flew skydivers for two years in raggedy old airplanes, had my fair share of experiences and situations that were handled accordingly... all before coming to the airlines.

It probably is comforting to see 'gray' hair on your pilots when you step on board, but do you know how long that gray haired pilot has been flying or what his experience is? Maybe he is a career changer that started his flight training 8 months ago at a 'pilot mill' like ATP. Just because someone is older, doesnt mean they are more experienced. I'm sure you have heard the famous quote "don't judge a book by it's cover". The same applies here.

The next time you step into an aircraft and you see that 24 year old up front, think before you assume. That 24 year old may have 3,000 hours or more and several years of experience with that airline and even more experience with other flying like banner towing, glider towing, flight instructing, flying skydivers, pipeline patrol, night cargo in cessnas, etc. We are all trained to the same standards, no matter what the experience. There are very few "Sully's" in the cockpit, and even he had to start somewhere.
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At least the "lady at the end" put her money where her mouth is and is now driving. My advice to anyone else who feels the same way would be to take alternate forms of transportation. I find it very ironic that lately many of us on APC have been crucifying the media for the way that they comment about aviation issues, but many so-called pilots on this site are doing the exact same thing (e.g. jumping to conclusions before the facts are known and generalizing that entire populations of pilots (regional, civilian, young, etc.) are basically incompetent slobs). The main difference is that the media's motives are financial, while the pilots' motives are mostly ego.

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Old 02-26-2009, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by GrUpGrDn View Post
they operate into cvg
SkyWest does/did fly into Halifax (ATL), Toronto (SLC), Philly (MKE/CVG), BWI, HPN, PIT, RDU, Greensomething in South Carolina, Dayton, CLE, Buffalo... off the top of my head.
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