Skipping 1st year pay?
#31
It's no different than the Screen Actors Guild. They are a very powerful union. Their contract dictates that when the studio needs to fill a role, no matter how big, they must FIRST offer the opportunity to a union member before auditioning non-union actors. If a union member accepts, they are paid according to the contract.
I know this because one of my students was a retired actor. From all the things he told me, I would say the are one of the most powerful unions in the country.
There is no reason we couldn't achieve the same thing at ALPA.
I know this because one of my students was a retired actor. From all the things he told me, I would say the are one of the most powerful unions in the country.
There is no reason we couldn't achieve the same thing at ALPA.
#32
Hey guys, what do you think of us pilots coming together to fight for something that could potentially benefit all of us. If we could get unions to collaborate on this, any pilot with past part 121 airline experience should be able to bump directly to 2nd year pay at any airline they go to.
This way, the real new guys still "pay their dues," but no one has to pay them 2, 3, or even 4 times just because of a furlough. You still lose your seniority and everything else, but you'd skip the crappy year 1 pay.
I think that this is a fair intermediate between what we have now, and a master seniority list.
This way, the real new guys still "pay their dues," but no one has to pay them 2, 3, or even 4 times just because of a furlough. You still lose your seniority and everything else, but you'd skip the crappy year 1 pay.
I think that this is a fair intermediate between what we have now, and a master seniority list.
#35
I am sure that mgmt could care less if the 1/2nd year FO were paid more...as long as the rates were lowered somewhere else. Seems to me the problem (as defined by the original poster) of the low first year pay is relatively easy to fix, as long as the guys at the table next time are willing to give up a little of the senior guys pay to go towards the new guys pay. Yeah, REAL likely.
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