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Originally Posted by el jefe
(Post 587188)
It's what we were told at the first recall RGS in Feb. They have -700 and -900 upgrade training programs ready to go once another airline goes tts up or we win an RFP.
Or maybe it was just the tasty Kool-aide? ;) |
Originally Posted by el jefe
(Post 587162)
The owners of AWAC want to purchase more aircraft (CRJ-700's or -900's) and expand the flying, but it's just not gonna happen when the economy is in the gutter and airlines are cutting back on their regional flying.
The Amigos have had opportunities to expand flying. They've also had their chances in the past to get larger RJs, but they declined. Hell, there were rumors of a IAD base for United flying CR7s right until I left in Nov 07! For my good friends & colleagues still there I hope you are right...but past precedence has shown exactly ZERO desire to grow unless the contract is 1. long-term, 2. highly profitable, and 3. low-risk...and there haven't been many regional lift agreements the last 2-3 years fitting that mold. |
That is correct. They've had the -900 training program in place for years.
I think there is still a bid open with United for UAX flying as a contingency for a failed Mesa. But Mesa is still here and flying. Under the current leadership I also don't see any desire to do anything. The fact that JG is coming back to fly the line means to me that there is even less likelihood of anything. He was pretty important for the training and with his position gone I think any likelihood of something other than what we have is pretty low. Look at the fate of the last two airlines our CEO was involved with if you wish to see the future of AWAC. One of them is now flying 9 airplanes and may eventually go to be a paper airline with all lift contracted out. The other is now just a ground handling company. I think AWAC could easily end up as a ground handling company with the flying being done at some point. Stranger things have happened. |
Originally Posted by el jefe
(Post 587188)
Or maybe it was just the tasty Kool-aide? ;)
Sarcasm and doubt were implied with my last two posts. |
Originally Posted by el jefe
(Post 587343)
:rolleyes:
Sarcasm and doubt were implied with my last two posts. Isn't the first time for me to do that, and won't be the last :D |
I agree with Saab2000 here. There has not been any good news at this place in 5 yrs. Our last "new" plane arrived 5 yrs ago and I think we have a better chance of parking those planes.
The owners had their fun from 93-04 they are just counting our concessions and laughing the whole way to the bank. |
Originally Posted by saab2000
(Post 587313)
That is correct. They've had the -900 training program in place for years.
I think there is still a bid open with United for UAX flying as a contingency for a failed Mesa. But Mesa is still here and flying. Under the current leadership I also don't see any desire to do anything. The fact that JG is coming back to fly the line means to me that there is even less likelihood of anything. He was pretty important for the training and with his position gone I think any likelihood of something other than what we have is pretty low. Look at the fate of the last two airlines our CEO was involved with if you wish to see the future of AWAC. One of them is now flying 9 airplanes and may eventually go to be a paper airline with all lift contracted out. The other is now just a ground handling company. I think AWAC could easily end up as a ground handling company with the flying being done at some point. Stranger things have happened. Hate to say it but i agree ... especially after seeing there ground ops at work i'll give em a couple years to string out on that one... if that? Heck i couldn't care less about mainline united though if they haven't gotten it thus far...it's useless they might as well operate car washes. As for the flying, unless they take a risk and use some of that private backed capital to buy some airplanes it's hard to see a flying future. Yes AWAC ground ops would hire you back if you lost your flying im sure. jk |
Rankin made it very clear in his last visit to the bases that he does not want 700's.....he feels that in the grand scheme of things that they are a temporary solution to a permanent problem. Jim also said that he really likes Spirit's Business Model and wants to run AWAC like them....not really sure what thats means.
I dont think we are gonna see 900s until Airways flat out tells us that the 50 seaters will not work anymore....OR.....we buy another airline.....hey minus our very large staple gun you Mesa guys would love it here ;) |
Originally Posted by Flyboy8784
(Post 587473)
Rankin made it very clear in his last visit to the bases that he does not want 700's.....he feels that in the grand scheme of things that they are a temporary solution to a permanent problem. Jim also said that he really likes Spirit's Business Model and wants to run AWAC like them....not really sure what thats means.
I dont think we are gonna see 900s until Airways flat out tells us that the 50 seaters will not work anymore....OR.....we buy another airline.....hey minus our very large staple gun you Mesa guys would love it here ;) |
Originally Posted by SpiraMirabilis
(Post 587475)
DOH with fences and you fire JO & Lotz and it's a deal.
lol it wouldnt be a merger....it would be an acquisition :p |
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