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Old 03-15-2009 | 06:23 AM
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Scope should include size and range. Seats times range should be less than 15000 to be flown by a regional.

70 pax 200 miles
50 pax 300 miles
19 pax 789 miles ( a grueling flight at 250 kts and no lav)

And here is a crazy idea for first year pay (assumes full time/75 hours guarantee):
FO: $1 per hour per seat
CA: $2 per hour per seat
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Old 03-15-2009 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
I agree with you 100%. However I previously thought the Q could only fly maybe 800nm or so, not more than 1000. Getting it all under one list and cert will be a tough battle with mgt so long as it remains cheaper through contractors.
not to mention the range of a Q400 and a 737-200 is virtually the same on a one hour flight
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Old 03-15-2009 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyJSH
Scope should include size and range. Seats times range should be less than 15000 to be flown by a regional.

70 pax 200 miles
50 pax 300 miles
19 pax 789 miles ( a grueling flight at 250 kts and no lav)

And here is a crazy idea for first year pay (assumes full time/75 hours guarantee):
FO: $1 per hour per seat
CA: $2 per hour per seat
umm how about 1.75 for FOs??
and 2 for CAs

plus $10 increase every yr (with a cap i guess...)
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Old 03-15-2009 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboDVR42
umm how about 1.75 for FOs??
and 2 for CAs

plus $10 increase every yr (with a cap i guess...)
I think signing for the aircraft is worth more than a quarter. To me (an FO with a good deal of PIC), a CA should make roughly double an FO. That said, I have no problem with $1.75 and $3.50, but I doubt that is realistic (a 1900 CA would make $64+K and a 744 would make $1.5 milllion +/-).

For longevity, I think 5% per year is reasonable. We can cover COL in the next contract
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Old 03-15-2009 | 08:23 AM
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okay i agree ca should make 2x and i also agree with 1.75 to 3.50


ohhhh boy can pilots dream....
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Old 03-15-2009 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyJSH
Scope should include size and range. Seats times range should be less than 15000 to be flown by a regional.

70 pax 200 miles
50 pax 300 miles
19 pax 789 miles ( a grueling flight at 250 kts and no lav)

And here is a crazy idea for first year pay (assumes full time/75 hours guarantee):
FO: $1 per hour per seat
CA: $2 per hour per seat
I say one list...period! Contracting too much flying hurts the pilots. But artificial caps on the type of airplane the company can fly hurts the bottom line. Under one list the company can fly whatever type it wants at whatever quantity they deem necessary and it gets flown by one pilot group. This is the best solution IMHO!
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Old 03-15-2009 | 01:59 PM
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Default Q-400 pay

Can the argument be made that the proportinate amount of revenue a type of airplane earns for it's company be the driving factor for pay? If thats the case, well turboprop pilots are woefully underpaid compared to their regional jet peers. It's a travesty that needs to be corrected, and as more and more airlines realize the economics of the large turboprop perhaps we will finally get some of the compensation we justly deserve.
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