10 years with one contract this may! 5 years in Negotiations! No end in sight and the company pretty much does what ever they want. Junior people are constantly abused, senior people are being junior manned. 30 captains displaced for no reason. No communication what so ever and no negotiations even scheduled for the near future.

 

ALPA cannot control p1ss poor management and company leaning NMB members.

I have picketed for PCL and you have a lot of resolve and good leadership, it just takes time under the lame RLA rules.

Airlines should be under the NLRA like every other normal "unregulated" industry. When the Airline De-regulation Act was passed the labor rules should have changed then too, but that is water under the bridge now.

Good luck and I will picket with PCL again if the opportunity arises.

 

Are you kidding? Dont you get the bi-monthly email and the negotiations update email? Didnt you just listen to the confrence call just a few days ago? Don't you ever checkout our online forum? How much more communication do you want? I even go as far to say that if you got any MORE communication you would be on here complaining about being bother by TOO MUCH communication.

Also, the lack of negotiations scheduled is not a fault of the union, its a fault of our mediator and current policy requiring us to jump through these hoops in the first place.

Furthermore, Im sick of people like you getting on here crying about how Alpa is holding us back from a contract, if you havent noticed they are the only people trying to get us a new contract. I take it you dont remember what the company offered for 900 rates? I guess you would have been happier with those in a non-union enviroment.

Im sure we would have a contract by now without Alpa, but it would be company written. NO THANKS!!!

Do us all a favor and spend this time and engery getting involved to try and make our union better.

 

No offense but ALPA is not a UNION joker. Look at how DAL run by RA is pulling JPs strings. They don't even talk to us anymore.

There are a lot of pilots out there at much larger airlines than 9E unhappy with ALPO.

And you gotta be kidding me in defending ALPO in it's contract negotiations with 9E. Could it really be worse. You apparently have never had a real union job.

 

Unfortunately any new contract with Pinnacle management looks farther and farther away.

Some of the latest company attempts to cover the CFO's auction rate securities that are coming due.....

1. Firing half the base management staff and forcing the others to work twice as much for less money.

2. Canceling 401k match to employees.

3. Furloughing mechanics and trying to find someone to finance their spare parts operation.

4. Forcing a 401k change from Diversified Investments to Fidelity, in the meantime the company is raking in the interest off the employees money everyday. (Anyone have money at Fidelity yet?) - Must be lost in the internet black hole somewhere...

5. Switching employee payroll to 'in-house' so they can keep the payroll funds another 5 days(gaining interest), which has been a debacle for the people trying to run the program in Memphis.

There is no way this management team is going to write a check for a new contract with big retro pay right now. Just the reality of what they are doing....

Hard to believe they got themselves sooo far down this road.

 

If these are the same "in housers" that were (perhaps are still are) doing Colgan's pay, keep a hand on your wallet! When I was over guarantee, on average they shorted my pay by 4 hours, and I am not alone. It seemed to be SOP. Every month I had to fight to get paid. Finally, I just said screw it and bid well under guarantee.

 

I agree 100%...

 

I have two words for you guys:

Safety First!

Unless your pilot group (not your union) individually (yet collectively) decides to actively promote "Safety First," you'll never get the contract you desire. This has been proven many times over by others who have been where you are today.

I mentioned this concept recently to a Pinnacle jumpseater. He agreed, yet made it clear that your pilot group is afraid that if performance suffers, Delta will attempt to cancel your contract. This is true. What you must understand, is that your Management is even more afraid of this than you are. At some point Delta will come to your management and say, "either you guys get your act together (i.e. get a pilot contract) or we're going to start cancelling your flying." If this happens, I guarantee, within a week, you'll have a contract.

 

You guys are all FAR off the truth on the payroll/401k stuff. I can spend the time explaining it all if you would like but won't take the time if not asked.


If you have problems or feel you are not given enough info- ASK!

PM me for an email and phone number or post it here. If it shouldn't be public I can tell you why and explain/answer it privately.

 

When does Obama appoint new NMB members?