No, that's a separate LOA that basically says they can violate the large RJ cap unless they furlough anyone (in exchange for a solid interpretation of their scope). If they furlough anyone senior to September 1, 2001, zero 76 seat jets are allowed. Pre SOC this is about 200 from NWA, and 600 from DAL; post SOC it is about 440 total pilots. 10% of the DAL list is well above any of these numbers

From section 1.B.40.e:
Exception one: If a pilot on the seniority list with an employment date prior to September 1, 2001 is placed on furlough, the Company will convert all 76-seat jets for operation as 70-seat jets.

 

"Exception one: If a pilot on the seniority list with an employment date prior to September 1, 2001 is placed on furlough, the Company will convert all 76-seat jets for operation as 70-seat jets."

Would 10% reach back to 9/1/2001 ?

 

Ftrooppilot,

The point is that DAL cannot just get rid of the Compass airplanes that easily. Sure they could sell them with no penalties (unlike the NWA contract), but the flow has to remain intact. Cancel the flow, whether still owned or not, reduces the number of 76 seat jets allowed by 35 (i.e., they can't fill in the gaps with other DCI carriers). Option two would be to reconfigure 35 76 seaters of their choice back to 70 seats, otherwise they cannot be operated as Delta Connection.

I believe that Airways is capped or even above for large RJs; AA, CAL, & UA don't allow the 175 at the feeders. Unless they sell them over seas they can't be used in the US. Maybe I'm wrong and RAH will turn them into more cookie monsters up in MKE.

440 or so pilots gets you to 09/01/2001 post SOC; 10% of the list gets you back to around mid 2001 for DAL and early 2000 for NWA.

A. Definitions.
1. “Participating Feeder Carrier” means a Domestic Air Carrier that is a Feeder Carrier (both as defined in Section 1 B.7.a. and Section 1 B.7.c.(1) of the Agreement) that has contracted with the Company to operate Qualifying Aircraft.
a. “Category 1 Participating Feeder Carrier” means a Participating Feeder Carrier that is an Affiliate of the Company.
b. “Category 2 Participating Feeder Carrier” means a Participating Feeder Carrier that is not an Affiliate of the Company and that operates Qualifying Aircraft that are owned, financed, leased, or sub-leased by the Company (not including the AVRO85 replacements at Mesaba Airlines).
c. “Category 3 Participating Feeder Carrier” means a Participating Feeder Carrier that is not an Affiliate of the Company and that operates Qualifying Aircraft that are not owned, financed, leased or sub-leased by the Company.

Category 1: Compass, Comair, and Mesaba
Category 2: ASA, Pinnacle, does Skywest own the 900s?
Category 3: RAH & Freedom

If you're DCI, you're one of the three categories, always.

 

Schwartz is correct. There are 3 seperate caveats that effect the number of 76 seaters allowed under DCI. The first caveat came from the DAL side, and it states that if furloughs go back to a 2001 hire then ALL 71-76 seaters must be reduced to 70 seaters. He is also correct in that DAL could furlough MORE guys on the DAL side PRE-SOC before hitting a 2001 hire. This is because DAL hired 600+ guys post 9-11 as compared to NWA only hiring 150ish.

The second caveat is that if the flow through is CXD the total # of 76 seaters is reduced by 35. This is whether the flow is CXD by DAL, OR by a result of Compass being sold.

The third caveat was a result of a recent LOA which states that if ANY DAL pilot is furloughed then any 71-76 seater ABOVE the cap must be reduced to a 70 seater. This was the additional furlough protection that was recently obtained for the bottom 400.

 

Did somebody put THC in this guy's thread?

 

Tender Loving Care?
Tender Loving Caltrate?
The Learning Channel?
T-Boz, Left Eye, Chilli?
Tetrahydrocannabinol?

Yeah, yeah I get it!

 

are we still talking about this?