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withthatsaid182 04-07-2009 06:41 AM

i still don't have any type of official furlough notification!

when i file for unemployment should i just send them the jetnet link with peter bowler's letter?

RJ Pilot 04-07-2009 06:45 AM

Aepa - Front Page Some food for thought.

eaglefly 04-07-2009 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 592028)
Aepa - Front Page Some food for thought.

OUCH !!!!!!

withthatsaid182 04-07-2009 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 592028)
Aepa - Front Page Some food for thought.


wow...good read...interesting spin on the current situation...

Flyby1206 04-07-2009 10:58 AM

Lots of name calling and ideas that are a pipe dream in my opinion. Transfer flowthrough pilots to AA now? And they become furloughed immediately?? Good luck finding a current AE CA with an AA seniority # that would like to go on furlough tomorrow in order to be recalled to AA in 2-3-5 years. Am I misunderstanding aepa's concept?

Negotiating a no-furlough clause in our past amendment round? What amazing concession did we give the company where they would have agreed to a no-furlough clause? I understand we have changed some small scheduling practices, and line guarantee maximums, but I havent seen any lines over 80hrs in the recent months.

eaglefly 04-07-2009 11:31 AM

Actually, if they were to transfer the top 75 flowthru pilots now, the most junior of them would still have perhaps 1000 AA pilots junior to them actually flying, so no they wouldn't be IMMEADIATE furlough fodder (my numbers are approximate).

There have been plenty of 80-90 hour lines recently, but they've been the minority (perhaps 35%).

This information source has as much truth as not and highlights a disturbing belief that the current leadership is no better then ones past that did our pilots little good.

Mason32 04-07-2009 12:26 PM

As I recall having read somewhere, he was one of the MEC members, or part of the bargaining team, back when that 16 year contract was written...

When he got booted out of office, he has spent the remainder of his life thus far complaining about the very contract he stuck you all with...

eaglefly 04-07-2009 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by Mason32 (Post 592268)
As I recall having read somewhere, he was one of the MEC members, or part of the bargaining team, back when that 16 year contract was written...

When he got booted out of office, he has spent the remainder of his life thus far complaining about the very contract he stuck you all with...

Actually no. He was not a part of the negotiators of the 16-year agreement and was not at any of the roadshows promoting it (ALPA national WAS !). Other crooks orchestrated that.

ERJF15 04-08-2009 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by withthatsaid182 (Post 592023)
i still don't have any type of official furlough notification!


Hopefully, that's a good thing. This may not happen. Key word though..."may"!

JT8D 04-09-2009 08:01 AM

If only it were so... the displacement bid's out, the letters are now out, it's gonna happen unfortunately


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