Reserve Work Rules
04-01-2009, 07:58 AM
#11
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Mesaba
1) 1.5 hours call out
2) no long call
3) 3.75 min pay for home reserve, 4 if called out
4) 11 days off
5) 8 hours ready reserve, 4 hours pay
6) 3 periods, morning, mid day and highspeed (CDO)
1) 1.5 hours call out
2) no long call
3) 3.75 min pay for home reserve, 4 if called out
4) 11 days off
5) 8 hours ready reserve, 4 hours pay
6) 3 periods, morning, mid day and highspeed (CDO)
04-01-2009, 08:30 AM
#12
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Joined APC: Feb 2009
Posts: 208
Mesa:
1) 1.5hr call out or 60min if you're at GJT. 2hrs if youre at JFK I believe.
2) Can reduce your monthly guarantee to get extended call-out (12 or 24hr) but thats only if crew planning wants to give any out that month.
3) No min pay for home reserve.
4) 6, 8 and 10 hour ready reserve periods. Pay is 50% of ready (so 3hr credit for 6hr shift.) Must be released after RR ends unless they extend you to the next higher segment (6 to 8, etc.)
5) Morning, evening and standup reserve times (0500-1700, 1200-2400, 1800-0600) but these can be changed by the company if they really want to.
6) Preference system. Call me First, Call Me Last. Trips are assigned in seniority order from the CMF, then no-preference, then in reverse seniority order in the CML -- except if you're on ready in which case it's company's discretion.
7) 10 days off.
8) Theres supposedly a volunteer list for RR, but other than that it is assigned in reverse seniority order.
1) 1.5hr call out or 60min if you're at GJT. 2hrs if youre at JFK I believe.
2) Can reduce your monthly guarantee to get extended call-out (12 or 24hr) but thats only if crew planning wants to give any out that month.
3) No min pay for home reserve.
4) 6, 8 and 10 hour ready reserve periods. Pay is 50% of ready (so 3hr credit for 6hr shift.) Must be released after RR ends unless they extend you to the next higher segment (6 to 8, etc.)
5) Morning, evening and standup reserve times (0500-1700, 1200-2400, 1800-0600) but these can be changed by the company if they really want to.
6) Preference system. Call me First, Call Me Last. Trips are assigned in seniority order from the CMF, then no-preference, then in reverse seniority order in the CML -- except if you're on ready in which case it's company's discretion.
7) 10 days off.
8) Theres supposedly a volunteer list for RR, but other than that it is assigned in reverse seniority order.
04-01-2009, 09:26 AM
#13
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: Gear Slinger
Posts: 316
wait work rules actually apply to reserve...because as far as I can tell I've been the company's b#$@% for the past few months and I live in base. I can't even imagine commuting to reserve again.
AWAC
-On call for 15 hours with a 2 hour callout (although with the 2 hour callout you're essentially done after 12, just have to answer the phone if they call within the 15)
-9/10 call outs are for a DH to pick up a trip out of base since I'm RDU, but we do get full DH pay
-averaging at least 80 hours a month since going back to reserve in DEC
-12 days off a month if you live in base, if you commute there's not a chance with the 15 hour on call days, and good luck getting released early enough to commute home, or vise versa at the start of a sequence.
-trip and duty rigs apply once assigned a trip 1/2 duty 1/4 trip (saved me on a double DH to pick up a broken plane in ROC and getting stuck there for 2 days. Actual block was only about 3 or 4 hours in 3 days)
-Can't speak for ready reserve since there are none in RDU, but from what I hear it's much better
AWAC
-On call for 15 hours with a 2 hour callout (although with the 2 hour callout you're essentially done after 12, just have to answer the phone if they call within the 15)
-9/10 call outs are for a DH to pick up a trip out of base since I'm RDU, but we do get full DH pay
-averaging at least 80 hours a month since going back to reserve in DEC
-12 days off a month if you live in base, if you commute there's not a chance with the 15 hour on call days, and good luck getting released early enough to commute home, or vise versa at the start of a sequence.
-trip and duty rigs apply once assigned a trip 1/2 duty 1/4 trip (saved me on a double DH to pick up a broken plane in ROC and getting stuck there for 2 days. Actual block was only about 3 or 4 hours in 3 days)
-Can't speak for ready reserve since there are none in RDU, but from what I hear it's much better
04-01-2009, 09:39 AM
#14
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Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: SIC
Posts: 1,367
TSA:
1.5 Hr Call out
No long call reserve
Reserve times typically start at 5:00 am, or 12:00pm
4 hour guarantee on home reserve (only if called) no pay if no call
5 hour guarantee on Airport (ready) reserve, whether called or not
10 hour reserve day @ airport
believe it's a 14 hour reserve day @ home
Typical average was atleast 90 hours a month, while a captain on reserve, I had plenty of 110 hour months, one almost touched 120 hours....I typically only flew in 40-50 hour range though. Lots of deadheads and airport reserves.
1.5 Hr Call out
No long call reserve
Reserve times typically start at 5:00 am, or 12:00pm
4 hour guarantee on home reserve (only if called) no pay if no call
5 hour guarantee on Airport (ready) reserve, whether called or not
10 hour reserve day @ airport
believe it's a 14 hour reserve day @ home
Typical average was atleast 90 hours a month, while a captain on reserve, I had plenty of 110 hour months, one almost touched 120 hours....I typically only flew in 40-50 hour range though. Lots of deadheads and airport reserves.
04-01-2009, 09:46 AM
#15
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Position: FIRE ALPA
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Originally Posted by jaded
Mesaba
1) 1.5 hours call out
2) no long call
3) 3.75 min pay for home reserve, 4 if called out
4) 11 days off
5) 8 hours ready reserve, 4 hours pay
6) 3 periods, morning, mid day and highspeed (CDO)
1) 1.5 hours call out
2) no long call
3) 3.75 min pay for home reserve, 4 if called out
4) 11 days off
5) 8 hours ready reserve, 4 hours pay
6) 3 periods, morning, mid day and highspeed (CDO)
Yea that 3.75 is only for the "build up" aka composite lines. If you are straight reserve a day not called is worth 0.... BIG difference. And that 3.75 disappears in Aug when PBS goes live....
04-01-2009, 10:19 AM
#19
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Posts: 478
I have noticed that "senior" FO's (in quotes because they have been there only 6 months to a year longer than I have, but are 400-500 numbers senior) seem to have an utter lack of respect for us lowly reserves. Most of these people have sat reserve a total of 2 days (after IOE) then went right into a nice line. I have been on reserve well over a year with no end in sight. I gets old getting talked down to, laughed at because of how junior I am, and having the worst QOL ever. There needs to be major reform to our reserve system.
04-01-2009, 03:45 PM
#20
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,228
Originally Posted by ehaeckercfi
I have noticed that "senior" FO's (in quotes because they have been there only 6 months to a year longer than I have, but are 400-500 numbers senior) seem to have an utter lack of respect for us lowly reserves. Most of these people have sat reserve a total of 2 days (after IOE) then went right into a nice line. I have been on reserve well over a year with no end in sight. I gets old getting talked down to, laughed at because of how junior I am, and having the worst QOL ever. There needs to be major reform to our reserve system.
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