ExperimentalAB

That's not right of them...but The Juice is correct, seniority is seniority is seniority, and no system will ever make up for the lack of class shown by a fellow pilot.

Avroman

What company is this?

IBFlyin

Skyw

10 in 30/11 in 31 days off for reserves


Long call 12 hours and short call 2 hours to check in

Reserve bucket system, either call me first (Most senior CF called first), or "no preference" (Most junior called first)


Trips are assigned in bucket order (4 day trips to 4 day bucket, etc.) in the following order: long call CMF, long call NP, short call CMF, short call NP

Min day guarantee of 3.75 only applies if trip was not modified from its PBS version. As soon as CS modifies it, MDG disappears, and you get the credit for the flying only(at least this is how it was explained to me). Duty rig applies to scheduled and rescheduled reserve trips, but time spent on a deadhead does not count towards duty rig(Also how I had it explained to me) Also cancellation pay does not apply to reserves. Not getting calledl equals 0 credit for the day.


Ready reserve depends on base, sometimes it is attached to one leg, and can be anywhere from a few minutes long to upwards of six hours (depends on what mood CS is in) Other bases call you out to sit in the airport for 7:30 with no flight assignments. RR sits in this case are limited to 7:30. RR credits half of your duty time.


There is no limit to amount of ready sits, and whoever is up to be called is who gets it (sucks when you go to call first to try to fly and just end up sitting ready) LCR has to have a flight assignment scheduled in order to be called, it cant just be ready. But fly one leg and then ready is acceptable.


We have what the company calls reserve transparency, most pilots call it reserve translucency. It provides little info on other assignments that have been assigned.


Our reserve lines are built and we choose from what is built for us. You basically end up with the same days off each week. Alternating between two days off a week and three days off a week. CS will not let you trade days with yourself unless youre going from an above min reserve day to a below min reserve day. If both days are above min reserves, you cant trade with yourself. Very frustrating.

AM/PM reserves, AM is generally 4a-4p or 5a-5p, PM is 9a-9p. Long call on call 24 hours a day.

We have an early release program, our policy says if they are above min reserve coverage, they will release in order that requests are received. You request how early you want a release, whether or not they accept is up to CS.

100% DH pay.

CS not allowed to schedule us over 14 hours without our consent. They try though. If delays occur we have to fly to 16 hours.

sweptback

Wow, that's about 75% of the ASA reserve system, but with all the pilot protections stripped out. Sucks for you guys!

dodgerk

The thing that bothers me the most is when scheduling calls you on your day off all day! They even call me on days I take vacation and leave multiple messages! Been on reserve at SKY for a year now. Don't mind it in general, but you have to be aware of when you do and don't have to answer the phone.

1900luxuryliner

Lakes:
-1 hour, 45 minutes for DEN, to show time/ check-in
-1 hour all other cities
-No long call
-10 days off, with 3 sets of 3 days off, and 3 inviolable days.
-14 hours of reserve per day, most often 0800-2200
-Average reserve pilot doesn't fly much on the FO side, these days. I've heard as low as 15 hours, and as high as 50 hours. Captain's side flies a lot more on reserve.
-Hot reserve is 8 hours. I always did 0800-1600 back when I was on FO reserve.
-Hot reserve normally happens a few days per month on a reserve schedule. I never did it more than once per week, and averaged maybe once or twice per month.
-No reserve built into lines, that I know of.
-75 hour guarantee
-Reserve calls not seniority-based. One scheduler told me it's basically alphabetical order.
-If you're a senior FO, and bid reserve, you probably won't get called much, as they need to consolidate the junior FOs (100 hours in 90 days), or they need to take their checkride again. This comes in handy for upgrade studying.

Copperhed51

So I just got my first high speed last night on reserve here at Lakes. It was scheduled for 1453 of duty but apparently they can schedule us up to 15 on high speeds.

Question though...at my last airline if I remember correctly, our duty time started when we started our reserve day. So if we started reserve at 8am and got called out at 8pm, we'd been on duty 12 hours already so a high speed would not have been possible. So is that not how it works here? We're not on duty until our report time? Is it that way at a lot of other places too? I have another high speed on Friday. I start reserve at 10am Friday, fly that night and Saturday morning and get back almost 24 hours after starting reserve on Friday. How is any of this crap legal?

1900luxuryliner

Here is how it's always worked for me in the past; I have a feeling this is what happened to you, as well:
1. You call on reserve at 0800
2. Scheduling notifies you of a high speed reserve assignment, which takes place that same night.
3. Scheduling signs you "Off Duty" at that very moment, to ensure your duty day doesn't exceed 15 hours with the high speed taking place later that night.
4. You start your duty day at the high speed show time.
5. After the high speed, you need, at very least, another 8 hour rest period, before you're back on reserve, or are able to fly another reserve assignment.

If you're Off Duty before the high speed, you're not responsible or liable to scheduling, whatsoever, until your show time. It's just like any other time off, or rest period. If you feel scheduling has been keeping you on duty, before your high speed, speak to one of the union reps. I'm almost sure they can't do this; not legally, or per contract.

Copperhed51

Called scheduling to see what their take on it is. They said what they normally do is have you on reserve from 0800-0900 so that they can give you another assignment if things change with the schedule and then you duty off and rest during the day and duty back on at your report time for the high speed. Since my reserve tomorrow starts at 1000, he said he'll just have me off the entire day until the high speed. The learning curve regarding contractual stuff is crazy when you start at a new airline.

Avroman

Yup they basically ensure a fatigued crewmember to keep from having to staff the airline properly to cover both shifts.... been there done that here at Mesaba too.... Gotta love a 6 am call to be told to go back to sleep so you can show at 7 pm and work all night til 9 am the next day......