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Old 04-02-2009 | 01:14 PM
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What's the deal with Mesaba? Have the rumors of furloughs been extinguished yet?
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Old 04-02-2009 | 01:30 PM
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What's the deal with Mesaba? Have the rumors of furloughs been extinguished yet?
They have been doing Time Off Without Pay for the past few months and it seems like 30 or more people take it every month. The rumors are still around but I haven't talk to anyone that was in RGS last month so don't know if anything else has changed. I know they are sending the instructors back to the line in June that plus PBS and not getting the additional 10 900's has left us 110 pilots fat. There was a post on a different thread saying XJ check airmen were told that they won't be sending as many instructors back to the line as first thought because there is some announcement coming this summer but that is the first time I have heard anything like that.
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Old 04-02-2009 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SkiboyOO7
They have been doing Time Off Without Pay for the past few months and it seems like 30 or more people take it every month. The rumors are still around but I haven't talk to anyone that was in RGS last month so don't know if anything else has changed. I know they are sending the instructors back to the line in June that plus PBS and not getting the additional 10 900's has left us 110 pilots fat. There was a post on a different thread saying XJ check airmen were told that they won't be sending as many instructors back to the line as first thought because there is some announcement coming this summer but that is the first time I have heard anything like that.
Thanks for the update..since Comair doesn't seem to be recalling anytime this decade I'll just keep on floating in this pool!
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Old 04-02-2009 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by andy171773
What's the deal with Mesaba? Have the rumors of furloughs been extinguished yet?
Went to RGS about two weeks ago and well the news is not good. The possibility of a furlough is pretty prevelent. They are thinking they may offer Extended TOWOP. somethings more than a month off. Anyway the way the union and JR put it, if things change for the good then great, but as of right now thigns are pretty gloomy.

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Old 04-02-2009 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Farva
Went to RGS about two weeks ago and well the news is not good. The possibility of a furlough is pretty prevelent. They are thinking they may offer Extended TOWOP. somethings more than a month off. Anyway the way the union and JR put it, if things change for the good then great, but as of right now thigns are pretty gloomy.

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Did they mention a number if they do have to furlough?
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Old 04-02-2009 | 02:00 PM
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I heard a rumor you guys do that Canarsie climb green needles? Say it ain't so Joe?
Oh yes. We had a lot of deviations due to map shift before we got GPS. First time I flew it I had the MFD map shift over half a mile on me. Had the bearing pointer up so it wasn't a problem. ATC gave us a vector before we reached CRI anyway. Now that most, if not all, of the airplanes have GPS Comair could very easily do it white data but, they are still required to do it green data. Call it paranoia on the part of flight standards. I believe it's close to 5 miles from CRI to the course to DIALS that the LGA arrivals take. So it doesn't take much of a deviation before they are sending LGA arrivals scattering.
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Old 04-02-2009 | 02:22 PM
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But what do WE know? We're just a bunch of dumb midwestern newbie to DCI Mesaba pilots. We have no clue of the concept of whipsaw, getting beaten down and dealing with mainline mgmt BS.

It's a good thing we as XJ crews will take the HIGH ROAD when Skywest, Comair, ASA etc... come to our neck of the woods in MSP and DTW on the ABC and B/C concourses in the next few months.

EXACTLY!...take your Midwestern (or Southern) butt back to BIS, RAP, and FAR!.....and dont come back!! Or in my case DSM. In my year here at Mesaba, ive stayed there more than any other place, hands down!
But.....im glad to have the job.......continue.....
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Old 04-02-2009 | 02:25 PM
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Farva - there was no doom and gloom painted in RGS. Furloughs are no more imminent today than they were a month ago. Yes, they're working on furlough mitigation projects and besides TOWOP, nothing further has been announced. So... I don't take that as being doom and gloom. You new guys have no idea what doom and gloom is! You will definitely know, when things are bad around here.

DL has changed as the wind blows with respect to many things. It's becoming VERY obvious that DL shoots from the hip, whereas NWA was very calculated, precise and predictable. So worrying about FALL block hours today will only waste energy.

Don't be such a negative nelly.
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Old 04-02-2009 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bored
Farva - there was no doom and gloom painted in RGS. Furloughs are no more imminent today than they were a month ago. Yes, they're working on furlough mitigation projects and besides TOWOP, nothing further has been announced. So... I don't take that as being doom and gloom. You new guys have no idea what doom and gloom is! You will definitely know, when things are bad around here.

DL has changed as the wind blows with respect to many things. It's becoming VERY obvious that DL shoots from the hip, whereas NWA was very calculated, precise and predictable. So worrying about FALL block hours today will only waste energy.

Don't be such a negative nelly.
Hey take it easy on us new guys we are still learning the ropes of this "living the dream" job!!!
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Old 04-02-2009 | 02:31 PM
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I heard XJ getting JFK is a pure rumor and not going to happen. Most likely JFK will stay with Comair. No one really knows how long a regional will continue to fly a certain route but XJ is getting some interesting destinations out in the West for now.

Few LCAs have said all CRJ900 ground instructors were kept in MSP and not returned to line flying. What this means, is anybody's guess.

Few senior NWA CAs have said that if the load factor does not come up this summer furlough at DAL is a definite possibility, and this has nothing to do with the no furlough clause as related to the merger.

One thing I heard lately from LCAs is that XJ pilots will get new uniforms sometime in 2009 to match DAL color scheme. Probably along the line of Comair and Pinnacle pilots' uniforms, black jacket and pants with gold stripes.
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