![]() |
For what its worth guys, I have flown with Mesabah and there was nothing scarey about him. In fact I had no idea that he had less time on the CRJ than I or that he was younger than me. And from what I could tell it didn't matter. I do understand the point behind the "scarey" comment, but I highly doubt that any of us would find up it scarey to upgrade that young if we were all in his shoes. Just food for thought!
|
Originally Posted by ExperimentalAB
(Post 591405)
We're adults, aren't we? I for one don't appreciate being treated as a child. After all, they are trusting those guys with multi-million dollar equipment...and then found it necessary to post a flyer like that? Silly...
I saw the flyer as the company trying to protect itself from possible future problems. The rules posted on the flyer were similar to those I had in college (even more lenient) and while in the military. |
Originally Posted by tim123
(Post 592061)
Except when something goes wrong
The only issues I've had so far involve the FA's that are much older than I am. If I am flying with an FO that is much older than me, a few of the older FA's tend to see the older pilot as the final authority. |
An important step
Originally Posted by brewpilot
(Post 590747)
Ok, that was a good article. But I just have to ask, besides being a CFI and teaching students to fly, then getting enough hours. The next step is Regional airlines. That's the way it's been going right?
After spending a winter flying boxes around at night in the ice/snow to tiny uncontrolled airports in a twin turboprop /A (no gps/FMS or any other fancy gizmos), flying a regional aircraft two crew, with an autopilot, heated cockpit, etc would be a trip to heaven. And I would feel much more confident flying that larger regional aircraft than the CFI who just left the C-172 to slide into the CRJ-700. Back when all the regionals were hiring I tried to get others to come play in the cargo world but they just turned up their noses and went to their airline jobs. I feel like they missed an important step that would have really forced them to get those good decision making experiences we are all speaking of. P.S. Those regional pilots are now coming to me looking for a job. |
Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
(Post 592069)
You and I don't know what or if any events occured prior to warrant such a flyer. I didn't take it as being treated like a child. Remember, it is company provided housing so they can make the rules. If you don't like it, go pay for a room yourself.
I saw the flyer as the company trying to protect itself from possible future problems. The rules posted on the flyer were similar to those I had in college (even more lenient) and while in the military. I wish it was as simple as saying that everyone there is mature and a true professional and that there is no need for such a set of rules - but using this forum and the simple set of TOS that we have and seeing how many people blatantly violate that set or rules - is anyone truly surprised? Sorry - a little bit of moderation frustration sneaked out there. :o USMCFLYR |
Originally Posted by LoudFastRules
(Post 591854)
I would just change the word "want" to "have". You MUST upgrade to pay the bills.
We purge experienced fairly paid pilots and replace them with freshly minted newbies from PAN Am Academy and All ATP's, who are wiling to work for next to nothing, while hoping for a grab at the golden ring. We can beat the high time vs low time argument to death, but I think everyone will agree that overall, flight experience has value. I have flown with some very sharp low time FO's who were ready for upgrade and some who made me roll my eyes but eventually all made very capable Captains. An FO on a regional airliner should be making 60K a year. |
Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 592133)
I can't imagine anything going wrong on a CRJ that would put me in dire straits compared to any other more experienced pilot in the same position.
The only issues I've had so far involve the FA's that are much older than I am. If I am flying with an FO that is much older than me, a few of the older FA's tend to see the older pilot as the final authority. Your kidding right ? What can go wrong, will go wrong. Your crew problems will seem like a non-event. Good luck. |
Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
(Post 592068)
For what its worth guys, I have flown with Mesabah and there was nothing scarey about him. In fact I had no idea that he had less time on the CRJ than I or that he was younger than me. And from what I could tell it didn't matter. I do understand the point behind the "scarey" comment, but I highly doubt that any of us would find up it scarey to upgrade that young if we were all in his shoes. Just food for thought!
My primary concern (the thing I found scary) was with the combined level of experience. Seems that could lead to a lack of CLR (CRM). I was an LCA at the commuter I flew for so I know what it's like to fly with people with no time in type. But I had a lot of time when I did this, both total and in type. Not too many transport category aircraft with single pilot type ratings. |
Originally Posted by The Juice
(Post 590407)
Nice job to the writer(pilot) of the articles.
Nice to see someone in the media without their head up their ..... Once again: All commercial jets operate with a minimum of two pilots, a captain and a first officer. The latter is known colloquially as the copilot, but he or she is not an apprentice or a helping hand. First officers perform just as many takeoffs and landings as captains do, and are fully qualified to operate the plane in all regimes of flight. The best paragraph in the articles. |
Originally Posted by Tinpusher007
(Post 596648)
Agreed but maybe if our respective companies wouldn't tell F/A's to say "Your flight is under the COMMAND of Capt. So and So and he is ASSISTED by F/O So and So" this concept wouldn't be so misunderstood.
|
| All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:51 AM. |
Website Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands