News at Colgan
04-15-2009 | 05:48 PM
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I agree with this definitely. Colgan used to be the regional to go to if you wanted to sacrifice pay for a quick upgrade, but this is not so much the case right now. I know of several FOs that will probably be into their 4th year before they upgrade ... it sucks, but that's just the way the economy is right now. Until the new Q's come next year, there won't be any movement. Buuuut, on a brighter note, the next batch of Q's has been confirmed that some, if not all, will be going to IAH. When that happens, IAH will go VERY senior for the Q. IAH is already a senior base for both CA and FO, and I know of several people who would transfer back to IAH in a heartbeat when the Q goes there.
EWR, my guess is, will go junior relatively quickly once the Q's start heading to IAH, and all the new and junior Q's CAs will either stay in EWR if they are already based there, or will transfer from the Saab to the Q. There are quite a few very senior CAs in IAH that have refused to transfer to the Q until it shows up on IAHs doorstep.
EWR, my guess is, will go junior relatively quickly once the Q's start heading to IAH, and all the new and junior Q's CAs will either stay in EWR if they are already based there, or will transfer from the Saab to the Q. There are quite a few very senior CAs in IAH that have refused to transfer to the Q until it shows up on IAHs doorstep.
04-15-2009 | 07:19 PM
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Not this again....youtube southpark..."They took R' jawbs!"
It reminds me of the less than 10% of express jet pilots that still think we are out to get them. Luckily 90% of the express guys and gals are great people who ACTUALLY know how the industry works.
It reminds me of the less than 10% of express jet pilots that still think we are out to get them. Luckily 90% of the express guys and gals are great people who ACTUALLY know how the industry works.
04-16-2009 | 05:36 AM
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Or maybe it's just because we finally have some BOS overnights.
04-16-2009 | 06:47 AM
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Colgan is the best!.....until next month and then I will hate them again.
04-16-2009 | 08:14 AM
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Great more flying going to a company who treats their employees like garbage, paying pilots who are now living in the Northeast 25-35 thou a year, flying a larger airplane, and then having to tell these drooling kids bragging about their turbo-prop that Yeah sure its great you have a job but this career is complete and utter crap. As soon as you have a chance at making a nice living, some other drooling newb will do it for half the price and say "its CAL's flying". (no offense to whoever said that) The QOL afforded to colgans pilots is horrendous... HORRENDOUS! If half of you even knew how most airlines ran their operations you would be ashamed of what you have now.
It is CAL's flying but this whole regional vs regional stuff is killing any hope you might have of having an enjoyable career. I dont care who you work for or how awesome you think your plane is... you will be undercut down the line and be in the same spot as xjt, comair, ....
Thats why many people are upset at xjt... not any airline especially but the industry as a whole.
04-16-2009 | 08:28 AM
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WAKE UP! no one thinks colgan is out to get them. It is more a frustration with this industry. heres an airline where the fo's make almost HALF as much as an xjt fo (2nd yr fo comparison and so on) and we as pilots not as "my company is better then your company" BS are supposed to be happy about this?
Great more flying going to a company who treats their employees like garbage, paying pilots who are now living in the Northeast 25-35 thou a year, flying a larger airplane, and then having to tell these drooling kids bragging about their turbo-prop that Yeah sure its great you have a job but this career is complete and utter crap. As soon as you have a chance at making a nice living, some other drooling newb will do it for half the price and say "its CAL's flying". (no offense to whoever said that) The QOL afforded to colgans pilots is horrendous... HORRENDOUS! If half of you even knew how most airlines ran their operations you would be ashamed of what you have now.
It is CAL's flying but this whole regional vs regional stuff is killing any hope you might have of having an enjoyable career. I dont care who you work for or how awesome you think your plane is... you will be undercut down the line and be in the same spot as xjt, comair, ....
Thats why many people are upset at xjt... not any airline especially but the industry as a whole.
Great more flying going to a company who treats their employees like garbage, paying pilots who are now living in the Northeast 25-35 thou a year, flying a larger airplane, and then having to tell these drooling kids bragging about their turbo-prop that Yeah sure its great you have a job but this career is complete and utter crap. As soon as you have a chance at making a nice living, some other drooling newb will do it for half the price and say "its CAL's flying". (no offense to whoever said that) The QOL afforded to colgans pilots is horrendous... HORRENDOUS! If half of you even knew how most airlines ran their operations you would be ashamed of what you have now.
It is CAL's flying but this whole regional vs regional stuff is killing any hope you might have of having an enjoyable career. I dont care who you work for or how awesome you think your plane is... you will be undercut down the line and be in the same spot as xjt, comair, ....
Thats why many people are upset at xjt... not any airline especially but the industry as a whole.
amen brother. i cant believe the wage they make over there at colgan. xjt 2nd year fo probably makes more than a 70 seat dash captain at colgan. so who do you think future flying will go to
04-16-2009 | 03:40 PM
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WAKE UP! no one thinks colgan is out to get them. It is more a frustration with this industry. heres an airline where the fo's make almost HALF as much as an xjt fo (2nd yr fo comparison and so on) and we as pilots not as "my company is better then your company" BS are supposed to be happy about this?
Great more flying going to a company who treats their employees like garbage, paying pilots who are now living in the Northeast 25-35 thou a year, flying a larger airplane, and then having to tell these drooling kids bragging about their turbo-prop that Yeah sure its great you have a job but this career is complete and utter crap. As soon as you have a chance at making a nice living, some other drooling newb will do it for half the price and say "its CAL's flying". (no offense to whoever said that) The QOL afforded to colgans pilots is horrendous... HORRENDOUS! If half of you even knew how most airlines ran their operations you would be ashamed of what you have now.
It is CAL's flying but this whole regional vs regional stuff is killing any hope you might have of having an enjoyable career. I dont care who you work for or how awesome you think your plane is... you will be undercut down the line and be in the same spot as xjt, comair, ....
Thats why many people are upset at xjt... not any airline especially but the industry as a whole.
Great more flying going to a company who treats their employees like garbage, paying pilots who are now living in the Northeast 25-35 thou a year, flying a larger airplane, and then having to tell these drooling kids bragging about their turbo-prop that Yeah sure its great you have a job but this career is complete and utter crap. As soon as you have a chance at making a nice living, some other drooling newb will do it for half the price and say "its CAL's flying". (no offense to whoever said that) The QOL afforded to colgans pilots is horrendous... HORRENDOUS! If half of you even knew how most airlines ran their operations you would be ashamed of what you have now.
It is CAL's flying but this whole regional vs regional stuff is killing any hope you might have of having an enjoyable career. I dont care who you work for or how awesome you think your plane is... you will be undercut down the line and be in the same spot as xjt, comair, ....
Thats why many people are upset at xjt... not any airline especially but the industry as a whole.
04-17-2009 | 03:22 PM
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pay wise we arent doing too hot over at xjt either.... in order to make ends meet over here you would need to pick up open time and with almost 400 guys on the street thats just not the right thing to do. A lot of people are hurting right now. These airlines can afford to pay their crews a liveable wage but they play games and whipshaw the ever loving sense out of each pilot group... some people see the madness and the ones who dont think your crazy.
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