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Mason32 05-05-2009 08:42 AM

Eagle/TSA Jets Failing Inspections
 
Read today on another board that the AMR jets that were leased to TSA, and have since been returned to Eagle are failing inpections left and right. Supposedly, AD's had been pencil whipped and were out of compliance for very long periods of time.... meaning TSA flew pax in unairworthy aircraft.

Reportedly three FAA inspectors are under scrutiny, and that the "inpsectors" were former TSA employees.

Anybody with more detail or facts?

ExperimentalAB 05-05-2009 08:43 AM

Plausible...

soon2bfo 05-05-2009 08:47 AM

It does not come as a surprise at all. I thought dmi stickers were standard in the cockpit until I flew at my new job. Now I might see 1 per week, and almost never more than 1 on any aircraft at a time. Trans States even got some bs award from the FAA for maintenance back in 03 or something. When I mentioned it in the interview RZ laughed. I never understood that until I flew for them. What a joke.

Pilotpip 05-05-2009 08:52 AM

The "award" TSA brags about isn't an award. It's just a certificate for attending a conference on MX once per year.

Doesn't surprise me a bit.

JayHub 05-05-2009 09:01 AM

I thought eagles mechs were camped out in tsa hangars?. Wouldn't it make sense for them to run through the aircraft before they got it back on property.

ERJF15 05-05-2009 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by JayHub (Post 605802)
I thought eagles mechs were camped out in tsa hangars?. Wouldn't it make sense for them to run through the aircraft before they got it back on property.


They do. They have 45 days to complete a C-check before they enter service. I tell you what, our MX folks kick a**!

250 or point 65 05-05-2009 09:19 AM

The feds were crawling all over the hangar at STL before those planes went back. They were hanging out there during overnight mx ops and everything. The STL mx guys aren't dumb. They wouldn't do anything to put their own certs on the line. However, if they got this stuff past the feds in the hangar, its the feds heads that are gonna roll.

JayHub 05-05-2009 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by ERJF15 (Post 605807)
They do. They have 45 days to complete a C-check before they enter service. I tell you what, our MX folks kick a**!

Exactly. So any problems are fixed on the tsa dime. The poster of this thread is implying eagle had the aircraft on property before discovering maintenance issues. That is what I had trouble believing. … now do I think our boyz did any pencil whipping …
:rolleyes:

Pilotpip 05-05-2009 10:00 AM

Wouldn't be the first time TSA's been popped for pencil whipping. I seem to remember GoJet having a couple unmet AD's and an undocumented engine change about a year ago.

But that's a different company...

ERJF15 05-05-2009 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by JayHub (Post 605825)
now do I think our boyz did any pencil whipping …
:rolleyes:


I don't think so. I was a prior 14 year AF Crew Chief and I've spent sometime w/the guys over at ABL. I think they're doing the best that they can with what they're working with. I don't think they can find eveything, but we have to remember, an airplane is an airplane.

We used to get brand new F-15's from the factory with a few hours on them. They would sit broke for weeks waiting on parts! A couple would get hangar queen status.


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