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Old 05-07-2009 | 08:38 PM
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Its the price they pay for not integrating and jeopardizing SKW becoming unionized. I'm sure they perform a calculated risk/benefit analysis.
I think the main reason (outside the union stuff) is to keep the two certificates. They don't currently need it, but it may be useful if they ever need to skate around a major's scope... ie shuttle america, chq, republic or gojet/tsa.
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Old 05-07-2009 | 08:47 PM
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I think the main reason (outside the union stuff) is to keep the two certificates. They don't currently need it, but it may be useful if they ever need to skate around a major's scope... ie shuttle america, chq, republic or gojet/tsa.
I thought that was EXACTLY why that did that. So in the future ASA can go for WEST COAST UL flying because SKYW is stuck with DL out there. ASA is stuck with DL in the east so SKYW can do the UL flying here.
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Old 05-07-2009 | 09:19 PM
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I think the main reason (outside the union stuff) is to keep the two certificates. They don't currently need it, but it may be useful if they ever need to skate around a major's scope... ie shuttle america, chq, republic or gojet/tsa.
I don't think so. As you pointed out Republic Airways Holdings has a single unionized seniority list with three separate operating certificates. Skywest Inc could have easily done the same if they wanted to go that route.
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Old 05-07-2009 | 09:23 PM
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I don't think so. As you pointed out Republic Airways Holdings has a single unionized seniority list with three separate operating certificates. Skywest Inc could have easily done the same if they wanted to go that route.
Or do the same thing with a separate seniority list.
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Old 05-07-2009 | 10:56 PM
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I don't think so. As you pointed out Republic Airways Holdings has a single unionized seniority list with three separate operating certificates. Skywest Inc could have easily done the same if they wanted to go that route.
They also maintain the ability to sell ASA should they desire, which would prove difficult with one pilot list. Not that I think they have any intention of doing that.
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Old 05-08-2009 | 05:51 AM
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It was part of Go Jets deal not ASAs. Remember, ASA said that we are allowed to find other flying gigs. Go Jet was the one that wanted us to give up our recall number if we went to them. - THIS WHAT I WAS TOLD WHEN I CALLED THE FURLOUGH COORDINATOR A MONTH AGO ABOUT THIS MATTER.

I'm not defending anyone here though... I didn't go to GO JET.
I seem to recall an exchange along the lines of "sure, we'll remove you from the seniority list, when GJ sends the letter, nod, nod, wink, wink". My understanding was that the furlough coordinator secured this.

If they got a job at GJ and are still on our list, good on them!
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Old 05-08-2009 | 05:54 AM
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\Not that I think they have any intention of doing that.
I wouldn't be so sure. Many highly informed individuals wonder if Delta just "loaned" ASA to SKW with the intentions of buying us back later.

That would also explain why SKW hasn't "realized the synergies" of merging the companies. As ACL65 will tell you, some things are happening at the Red Brick Building on Virginia Ave. and the DALPA HQ to corroborate that theory.
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Old 05-08-2009 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by John Pennekamp
I seem to recall an exchange along the lines of "sure, we'll remove you from the seniority list, when GJ sends the letter, nod, nod, wink, wink". My understanding was that the furlough coordinator secured this.

If they got a job at GJ and are still on our list, good on them!
Yeah I heard the same thing but I wasn't going to be the one to repeat that story.
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Old 05-08-2009 | 06:11 AM
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I wouldn't be so sure. Many highly informed individuals wonder if Delta just "loaned" ASA to SKW with the intentions of buying us back later.

That would also explain why SKW hasn't "realized the synergies" of merging the companies. As ACL65 will tell you, some things are happening at the Red Brick Building on Virginia Ave. and the DALPA HQ to corroborate that theory.
Now they are stuck with Mesaba, Comair and Compass.... I dunno if that is true any longer.
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Old 05-08-2009 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by USMC3197
Now they are stuck with Mesaba, Comair and Compass.... I dunno if that is true any longer.
From everything I'm hearing, the plans include Mesaba, Comair, Compass, and ASA. ASA is the only one not wholly owned by DAL. Why do you think we're included? ACL65, jump in here anytime.
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