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Old 05-17-2009, 11:49 AM
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Hey Intl Jumper, K thats what I thought about coming back, so how do you get back? do you use your ZEDs ?
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Old 05-17-2009, 12:08 PM
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As a frequent international jumpseater I can tell you CAL and DAL are awesome. AA won't let you jumpseat internationally, period. Kinda funny how they can ride on us on the JS but we cant do the same.
AA will let you jumpseat int'l, but YOUR airline has to be on their international reciprocal JS list. Most regionals are not.

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Don't count on jumpseating back into the US, you can only JS out. Requesting to JS back in will result in a confused foreign gate agent.
Not sure what you're talking about. You CAN JS BACK TO THE U.S., JUST NOT IN THE COCKPIT JS. It's simple, and just slightly different than in the U.S.. You walk up to the ticket counter, or if applicable, the "staff travel" counter, and request a JS pass to ride on whatever flight. You pay whatever departure taxes apply, and head to the gate. I've never had a problem requesting a JS from a foreign gate agent.

You must be walking up to a LH, AF, BA, etc flight and asking for a jumpseat, in that case, yes, they will not know what you are talking about.

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Hey Intl Jumper, K thats what I thought about coming back, so how do you get back?
Simple, you ask for JS form. As long as it's not on AA, and there's a seat in back, you should get on. And the standard statement applies, it's always the CA's discretion.

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do you use your ZEDs ?
It's always a good idea to have that as a backup.
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Old 05-17-2009, 01:00 PM
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To clarify, AA will only let you jumpseat if you are a pilot for a legacy carrier, or work for fedex or ups. There were 2 or 3 other small cargo carriers that I cannot recall at this time. But other than that, AA will not let you jumpseat in the cabin. I have heard about people jumpseating internationally from outside the US to outside the US. Not from outside of the US back to the US. I jumpseat internationally to go home every week. I jumpseat home on CAL to avoid landing fees, and non rev back into the US.
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Old 05-17-2009, 04:01 PM
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To clarify, AA will only let you jumpseat if you are a pilot for a legacy carrier, or work for fedex or ups. There were 2 or 3 other small cargo carriers that I cannot recall at this time. But other than that, AA will not let you jumpseat in the cabin. I have heard about people jumpseating internationally from outside the US to outside the US. Not from outside of the US back to the US. I jumpseat internationally to go home every week. I jumpseat home on CAL to avoid landing fees, and non rev back into the US.
Never had a problem jumpseating from Brazil to the US or UK to the US (both on DAL and CAL). I know many others who have jumpseated internationally into the US - so I don't know where you get your idea that it can't be done. Just remember it is pretty much a US carrier only thing to use the jumpseat.

Don't know where you jumpseat to but if you can get there on CAL you should be able to get home on CAL. If the local gate agents haven't got a clue ask the Gate agents in the States where the local agent can look up Jump seat procedures in their system or get your jumpseat coordinator let the CAL j/s coordinator know there is a problem.
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I commute from MMMY to ATL on a weekly basis. I tried to get CAL, specifically xjet, to let me jumpseat back, but apparently you can't. I have the jumpseat instructions printed I carry with me and show to the agents here stateside so they can properly put me into the system to JS to MMMY. It specifically prohibits jumpseating from outside the US back in. It is much easier to nonrev than jumpseat back into the US. In a year and half I have yet to miss a flight or have the need to buy a zed. I would love to know how to let CAL jumpseating coordinator where the problem is.... anyone know how to contact them?
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I would love to know how to let CAL jumpseating coordinator where the problem is.... anyone know how to contact them?
You tell your JS coordinator and he does his job and contacts CAL's JS coordinator.
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Originally Posted by Intl Jumper View Post
, specifically xjet, to let me jumpseat back, but apparently you can't. I have the jumpseat instructions printed I carry with me and show to the agents here stateside so they can properly put me into the system to JS to MMMY. It specifically prohibits jumpseating from outside the US back in.
Sounds like an Xjet problem.
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XJT doesn't let their own crews jumpseat back to the US. You would let XJT's jumpseat coordinator know if you think there is a problem. CAL doesn't own XJT, though XJT gets owned by CAL at least once per year.
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Old 05-17-2009, 06:55 PM
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i jumpseated to shanghai once from atlanta on DAL... very awesome business class both ways... leaving china was hard though because the gate agent had NO idea what we were talking about and barely spoke english... my friends and i ended up intercepting the flight crew through security and asking for a little help and they were more than happy to get us back home! im gonna be trying to go to Berlin for a week at the end of this month, any recommendations? only thing im worried about after my china experience is coming back! and how do u list as non rev rather than jumpseat? is that still free?
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Originally Posted by Intl Jumper View Post
To clarify, AA will only let you jumpseat if you are a pilot for a legacy carrier, or work for fedex or ups.
AA WILL let you JS if YOUR airline is on the international reciprocal list. Most regionals are not, but a few are. Also, SW is on it if I'm not mistaken.

FedEx and UPS being on there is nothing but pure irony.

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Sounds like an Xjet problem.
That would be correct.

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XJT doesn't let their own crews jumpseat back to the US. You would let XJT's jumpseat coordinator know if you think there is a problem. CAL doesn't own XJT, though XJT gets owned by CAL at least once per year.
That would be incorrect. XJT pilots are now allowed to occupy the cockpit JS coming from a non-U.S. airport.
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