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AirWillie 05-21-2009 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 615119)
It's called a contract and a vote. You vote no to a contract until rates go higher. If they don't go higher then you vote strike. It's pretty simple and most are willing to do whatever it takes. The only BS is your attitude that nothing is fixable.

Who cares. You as a regional pilot should not be voting on an EMB190 pay in the first place. We all joked about this but to actually have a regional flying mainline airplanes is just sick. Don't you realize what this will mean for the future? If you fail to stop this and at the min get mainline pay for your 190s, you guys will be the lowest of the low out of all the regionals even MESA. I'm going to try and get some sleep, some news...

MEMA300 05-21-2009 09:20 PM

This industry is going down and fast. I wish pilots had some pride. One day the Republic and Colgan guys will get it when some upstart regional undercuts them with a bunch of newbies. History repeats itself.

Enjoy the regionals guys. There are that many less mainline jobs out there.

MEMA300 05-21-2009 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by AirWillie (Post 615111)
I hate this industry. Can't wait to get a few thousand and go to places were piloting is worth something.

Where is that?

rickB 05-22-2009 12:39 AM

dang people stop crying about RAH already

Luv2Rotate 05-22-2009 01:33 AM


Originally Posted by MEMA300 (Post 615133)
Where is that?

Where do you think??? Where the American Dollar still holds some worth! Where you can be paid 15hr and live like a king!


Viva la Mexico!!! :D

captjns 05-22-2009 01:51 AM


Originally Posted by JetBlast77 (Post 614763)
On behalf of myself, my family, especially my kids at home, I'd like to thank RAH and their 170s and 190s for forcing me to leave the industry. I really hope you guys enjoy making less than half the salary when you're flying MKE-LAX. All the best!

Don’t forget, JetBlast, you also owe yourself a debt of gratitude for the decisions you made in life. As history has taught pilots, make sure an alternative plan is in place for the career in aviation does not pan out. The only other industry which comes close to the supply and demand is acting.

alvrb211 05-22-2009 03:01 AM


Originally Posted by Roper92 (Post 614889)
If it wasn't RAH, it would be someone else. They're not the only regional looking for more flying. They all are. RAH just happens to already fly the 170s/175s and was ready for the 190 flying. I know a couple Republic pilots and it would kill them to know they were replacing mainline jobs. What are they going to do? Quit? They, just like most pilots at RAH and every other regional, are just using RAH as a stepping stone to build time and move on.


Build time to move on?

When things pick up, and they will. Who's going to hire them?
This Rah/E190 deal will not go down well with ANY of the pilots who do the hiring at the mainline carriers.

If I was an Rah guy with hopes of moving on, I'd stay away from any 100 seater while at a regional!

Of course, the older Rah guys, or those with no degree will fly it.

For those who want to move on, it's simply career suicide. At least it will be good news for the guys at other regionals.


Oh, the Rah guys will get an interview. You'll be asked your name, you favorite color, and then "See ya".


Again, it's career suicide!:eek:

I guess even at Rah, there will be some lifers.


Of course, the mainline carriers will likely have an answer to stop this affecting them.



JJ

HercDriver130 05-22-2009 04:33 AM

And when all the regional jet carriers are flying either the Jungle Bus or the 100 seat RJ.. then what....because its coming. ITs what mgt at the mainline has wanted for decades. There are NO easy answers here. This horse left the stable before many of you guys were even out of diapers. Getting him back in will be a miracle.....

Ratherbeoffwork 05-22-2009 04:34 AM


Originally Posted by tpersuit (Post 615056)
I got something better. How about the Midwest pilots agree to the paycut and take all of Republics flying? Because I guarantee you that is what this will come to.

I think this was already offered.


Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 615065)
like i said, it doesnt have to be a strike to get things noticed. They cant arrest everyone if they decide to get the swine flu around the same time Just saying...

Its either DO nothing and watch the rest of the jobs get flushed or do SOMETHING while they still can.

For a job action like this, such as a sick out that you mentioned, it must be union organized.


Originally Posted by alvrb211 (Post 615199)
Build time to move on?

When things pick up, and they will. Who's going to hire them?
This Rah/E190 deal will not go down well with ANY of the pilots who do the hiring at the mainline carriers.

If I was an Rah guy with hopes of moving on, I'd stay away from any 100 seater while at a regional!

Of course, the older Rah guys, or those with no degree will fly it.

For those who want to move on, it's simply career suicide. At least it will be good news for the guys at other regionals.


Oh, the Rah guys will get an interview. You'll be asked your name, you favorite color, and then "See ya".


Again, it's career suicide!:eek:

I guess even at Rah, there will be some lifers.


Of course, the mainline carriers will likely have an answer to stop this affecting them.



JJ

How do you suppose we avoid the flying? Should I tell the company, sorry, I'm not flying that plane. They'll say, sorry, you don't have a job anymore. If we can avoid this, we will. I think career suicide is a little harsh when my 2 options are fly the plane or hit the street. And I would hope that the pilots doing the hiring at the majors would have a little more sense than you and know those were my only options. If we find something with our union to stop this, we will.

MEMA300 05-22-2009 04:40 AM


Originally Posted by SharkyBN584 (Post 615027)
And what set of circumstances made it so you were unable to protect YOUR flying?

The fact that guys will fly for less.


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