The Rah Guys Better Like The E190
05-21-2009, 07:12 PM
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Yea this one sucks.... no way around it for now.
05-21-2009, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ComairFO
Comair and ASA didn't steal anyone's pension, so why don't we just put this argument to bed once and for all.
05-21-2009, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
Wow. That is the rationale a scab uses when he crosses a picket line. I'm speechless.
05-21-2009, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
Know a lot of scabs do you? Or are you just making things up?
05-21-2009, 07:15 PM
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Another brilliant post.
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05-21-2009, 10:04 PM
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I'm sorry ladies and gentleman, but this is only the start.
5 years from now when 250 of these aircraft are being flown by regionals, most won't even remember this. It is inevitable and now, unstoppable.
Try to think of more pleasant things.........denail seems to be a way of american life, so join the party.
5 years from now when 250 of these aircraft are being flown by regionals, most won't even remember this. It is inevitable and now, unstoppable.
Try to think of more pleasant things.........denail seems to be a way of american life, so join the party.
05-21-2009, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
Try to think of more pleasant things.........denial seems to be a way of american life, so join the party.
/time for a 30 day vacation starting with a solid week in AMS
05-22-2009, 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by king10pin02
no, it is not possible for us to boycott the 190. It is what it is and those of us that are here at RAH are stuck with it (for now).
Then I'd say it's not possible for you guys to get hired at a mainline carrier in the wake of this E190 disgrace.
You guys have a contract with rates for a 99 seater. You made that possible!
Stuck with it for now? You're commiting career suicide and will be stuck at Rah for good!
JJ
05-22-2009, 04:28 AM
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I suspect there will not be any pure 190 lines... with only two aircraft and the fact its a common 170/190 type the crews might be flying a 175 on one leg and the next leg be flying the 190. And at least for now is just the pilots at Republic. Shuttle and CHQ at least for now wont be involved.
05-22-2009, 04:32 AM
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I've been in this industry now for 3 years. Been reading the boards quite a bit in that time as well. To be honest.., based on what I've seen, and read, and heard, I feel that this "solidarity" so many speak of is a myth, or at the very least a reality I will never see in this industry based on the apathy and indifference that exist. That and the "I got mine crowd" seem to me to be the biggest impediment to bringing any solidarity to this profession. We need a fundemental paradigm shift before any EFFECTIVE change will occur. Not likely to occur in my opinion. At this point in my career, my priorities are my health, my family, my career.
At no point in any of these threads have I felt the true spirit of solidarity that compelled me to change my actions with regards to doing my job or make a self sacrifice (read: fall on my own sword) so that those higher in seniority could continue to enjoy job security, prestige and, great pay. Sorry that's how I see it.
With regard to the E-190, do you seriously think that ANY pilot who cares about their family, their livelyhood, and being out on the street in THIS economy, Is gonna ACTUALLY refuse to fly it??? I don't know what world these folks live in, but I tend to focus on the real world.
Employment at the "Legacy Carriers" is becoming less and less attractive to me these days. Don't think I'm gonna be heading in that direction. Threats are a little school yard don't ya think?
Pilots don't get to choose what aircraft their airlines fly, MANAGEMENT AND THE MARKETS make those decisions. THE ONLY thing we AS pilots have control over is the speed and altitude we chose to go from A to B. Not crazy about every decision thats been made by this airline's management, but that's life in the 121 world.
If or when it comes my time to fly the E 190, don't expect me to fall on my own sword. That is unless we all collectively intend to provide us (pilots who refuse to fly it) with either the unemployment income or another job..., any takers.., didn't think so.., so much for "solidarity."
I'm gonna continue to do my job as I would expect any professional pilot to do. If it makes you all happy, when or if our union ever gets it's collective self together, we'll see about better pay. Don't hold your breath. So there it is.., do with this what you will. Don't get me wrong, I love my profession, myjob and the folks I fly with, hell I even like who I fly for (RAH).
Imagine that, a pilot who actually enjoys working for the airline he flys for, what a concept.
At no point in any of these threads have I felt the true spirit of solidarity that compelled me to change my actions with regards to doing my job or make a self sacrifice (read: fall on my own sword) so that those higher in seniority could continue to enjoy job security, prestige and, great pay. Sorry that's how I see it.
With regard to the E-190, do you seriously think that ANY pilot who cares about their family, their livelyhood, and being out on the street in THIS economy, Is gonna ACTUALLY refuse to fly it??? I don't know what world these folks live in, but I tend to focus on the real world.
Employment at the "Legacy Carriers" is becoming less and less attractive to me these days. Don't think I'm gonna be heading in that direction. Threats are a little school yard don't ya think?
Pilots don't get to choose what aircraft their airlines fly, MANAGEMENT AND THE MARKETS make those decisions. THE ONLY thing we AS pilots have control over is the speed and altitude we chose to go from A to B. Not crazy about every decision thats been made by this airline's management, but that's life in the 121 world.
If or when it comes my time to fly the E 190, don't expect me to fall on my own sword. That is unless we all collectively intend to provide us (pilots who refuse to fly it) with either the unemployment income or another job..., any takers.., didn't think so.., so much for "solidarity."
I'm gonna continue to do my job as I would expect any professional pilot to do. If it makes you all happy, when or if our union ever gets it's collective self together, we'll see about better pay. Don't hold your breath. So there it is.., do with this what you will. Don't get me wrong, I love my profession, myjob and the folks I fly with, hell I even like who I fly for (RAH).
Imagine that, a pilot who actually enjoys working for the airline he flys for, what a concept.
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