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Originally Posted by cencal83406
(Post 636034)
I hope you don't work for Pinnacle.... because if you do you are sorely misinformed as to what the scope lawsuit was about....
Do you deny Colgan pilots the jumpseat? why don't you educate me as to what the scope lawsuit was about......it says plain as day in our contract any flying will be done by pilots on the Pinnacle seniority list. Pinnacle forms Pinnacle Corp and buys Colgan to award turboprob flying to pilots who they can pay less money to....hires like crazy for a while on the COlgan side, meanwhile we are displacing CA's Scope is there to prevent other pilots from another seniority list flying your aircraft/routes etc, and also to prevent the purchase/lease of aircraft for another company to be flown by the other company. If you have a different definition I would like to hear it.... |
Well played, 250...
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My questions are: since it appears RAH will own Midwest sooner than later, when are the 717s going, are Midwest pilots interested in integrating, and could you fly for RAH given recent history?
Also is Republic going to fly 190s on the Midwest cert or the Republic cert or some other cert? |
Originally Posted by matlok
(Post 627036)
For starters, I wouldn't be so bold as to try to jumpseat on the company I'm screwing over.
Even if I did, I certainly wouldn't be surprised if I was denied the jumpseat. |
Originally Posted by frankwasright
(Post 636256)
I hope he's denied a position on the RAH seniority list.
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Maybe Willie flies and open air biplane and likes to free his willie in the air stream at 100mph.....only a thought.:p
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Originally Posted by subin30
(Post 626924)
had a midwest jumpseater who had a wise understanding of their unfortunate deal.
if your regional company/ceo (skywest, asa, mesa, pinn, etc) did exactly what republic did to midwest. how would you as the pilot group do anything differently? - understand you as the pilots have no control over the decision to get 190's.
Originally Posted by subin30
(Post 626924)
- if your company now decided to get 170's or 190's i'm sure no one would complain or not bid for it.
Originally Posted by subin30
(Post 626924)
- you've been with the company for 10 years plus when the pilot group was only 250 flying saabs and jetstreams.
Originally Posted by subin30
(Post 626924)
and now getting denied a jumpseat from midwest b/c you are considered scab to them. ofcourse he knew 190's were coming back then.
So, regarding the jumpseat.... what did you expect?
Originally Posted by subin30
(Post 626924)
- if not republic. it WILL GO TO SOMEONE ELSE.
Originally Posted by subin30
(Post 626924)
again, as a regional guy, if this happened to you and your company. how would it be any different?
Originally Posted by subin30
(Post 626924)
im hearing words like scab, bottom feeders, worse then gojets, towards republic pilots and f/a's.
Originally Posted by subin30
(Post 626924)
yes, its not fair and sucks to be in midwest shoes, but i dont think republic pilots are scabs. they didn't vote on nothing and have nothing they can actively do to prevent this.
Originally Posted by subin30
(Post 626924)
its not just midwest, history has shown other pilots groups getting hosed nearing the end of their company's existence.
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Originally Posted by mooney
(Post 636086)
ygtb kidding me. I've never brought colgan pilots into any of my posts. It's not their fault. DO a little search of my post before you throw false accusations....
why don't you educate me as to what the scope lawsuit was about......it says plain as day in our contract any flying will be done by pilots on the Pinnacle seniority list. Pinnacle forms Pinnacle Corp and buys Colgan to award turboprob flying to pilots who they can pay less money to....hires like crazy for a while on the COlgan side, meanwhile we are displacing CA's Scope is there to prevent other pilots from another seniority list flying your aircraft/routes etc, and also to prevent the purchase/lease of aircraft for another company to be flown by the other company. If you have a different definition I would like to hear it.... Wasn't there a similar case involving RAH.... with the court ruling that Republic Holdings and Republic Airlines were basically alter-ego's of eachother... Sounds like you guys have a good case... good luck. |
Like you sig says Mason. Fly the contract and nothing more. That's what we're doing and that's what Midwest guys are doing. ALPA dropped the ball huge by allowing a hole big enough for a shark like BB to drive a Mac truck through.
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Originally Posted by mooney
(Post 636010)
ha ha that's funny. Just like Colgan didn't get around Pinnacle's scope, even tho the mediator said they did initially then went back and said, oh you are 2 separate companies even though the top management is all the same and the money is funneled from one company to the other...:rolleyes:
you keep telling yourself you are 2 separate companies. Delta - Comair and now Northwest-Compass et all... USAir - Mesaba-Piedmont AMR - AA & AE Nothing new there my friend |
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