If your CEO did this...
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If your CEO did this...
had a midwest jumpseater who had a wise understanding of their unfortunate deal.
if your regional company/ceo (skywest, asa, mesa, pinn, etc) did exactly what republic did to midwest. how would you as the pilot group do anything differently?
- understand you as the pilots have no control over the decision to get 190's.
- if your company now decided to get 170's or 190's i'm sure no one would complain or not bid for it.
- you've been with the company for 10 years plus when the pilot group was only 250 flying saabs and jetstreams. and now getting denied a jumpseat from midwest b/c you are considered scab to them. ofcourse he knew 190's were coming back then.
- if not republic. it WILL GO TO SOMEONE ELSE.
the jumpseater an FO had an unfortunate situation where his capt denied a chq pilot. didnt feel good about it. even though he know he'll be on the streets soon.
again, as a regional guy, if this happened to you and your company. how would it be any different?
im hearing words like scab, bottom feeders, worse then gojets, towards republic pilots and f/a's.
yes, its not fair and sucks to be in midwest shoes, but i dont think republic pilots are scabs. they didn't vote on nothing and have nothing they can actively do to prevent this.
its not just midwest, history has shown other pilots groups getting hosed nearing the end of their company's existence.
if your regional company/ceo (skywest, asa, mesa, pinn, etc) did exactly what republic did to midwest. how would you as the pilot group do anything differently?
- understand you as the pilots have no control over the decision to get 190's.
- if your company now decided to get 170's or 190's i'm sure no one would complain or not bid for it.
- you've been with the company for 10 years plus when the pilot group was only 250 flying saabs and jetstreams. and now getting denied a jumpseat from midwest b/c you are considered scab to them. ofcourse he knew 190's were coming back then.
- if not republic. it WILL GO TO SOMEONE ELSE.
the jumpseater an FO had an unfortunate situation where his capt denied a chq pilot. didnt feel good about it. even though he know he'll be on the streets soon.
again, as a regional guy, if this happened to you and your company. how would it be any different?
im hearing words like scab, bottom feeders, worse then gojets, towards republic pilots and f/a's.
yes, its not fair and sucks to be in midwest shoes, but i dont think republic pilots are scabs. they didn't vote on nothing and have nothing they can actively do to prevent this.
its not just midwest, history has shown other pilots groups getting hosed nearing the end of their company's existence.
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had a midwest jumpseater who had a wise understanding of their unfortunate deal.
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the jumpseater an FO had an unfortunate situation where his capt denied a chq pilot. didnt feel good about it. even though he know he'll be on the streets soon.
again, as a regional guy, if this happened to you and your company. how would it be any different?
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the jumpseater an FO had an unfortunate situation where his capt denied a chq pilot. didnt feel good about it. even though he know he'll be on the streets soon.
again, as a regional guy, if this happened to you and your company. how would it be any different?
Even if I did, I certainly wouldn't be surprised if I was denied the jumpseat.
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You know every time I commute on United, one of the Pilots invariably asks me "So, when are you getting more Jets?" What a freakin' cop-out! It is their MEC allowing their company to outsource! What can I say?
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If he wants an answer... Tomorrow...
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Since management made the decision to screw the MidEx pilots, when you are in their shoes, will you resign on principal? Or keep flying?
When management has pushed you to fly sick, with an airplane that needed maintenance, when you were tired...did you walk off the plane?
When you were fatigued...did you delay the flight?
Have you ever been on strike?
When someone else was, did you honor their line and refuse to cross it to fly your plane...in solidarity?
As you said, it is what it is...so what IS your response? Are you one of US, who have, or just an armchair QB passing judgement?
Speaking for those of us who have walked the walk, I can tell you that these guys are NOT SCABS, no matter what you may think. Though I would like to see YOU in their place. And your letter of resignation that you signed in solidarity.
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I wouldn't resign, but would do my best to not gripe on the internet and make things happen by joining alpa or doing my best to voice my concerns on property. I would NEVER fly sick, or with a plane outside of maintenence, and if i was too tired to fly...see ya, job or no job, i'm not going to make a grave mistake due to management pressure. Fatigue is Fatigue, you're tired to that point, call in; good luck if they can you for that one. Never been on strike, but I would in an instant if my union and airline brothers/sisters deemed it so. I am one of us, in every way, shape and form, and in no way was my post an attempt to armchair QB ANY situation. I'm sorry if you feel thi way, I just was conveying my opinion of RAH destroying the market and taking advantage of a terrible working condition to exploit some great people. I didn't use the word SCAB, so stow that talk right away please. And if you would like to start projecting me into others place, remember, we're ALL in this together, dont' take a post as a wish for ANY airline to go under. Read more carefully please.
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