If your CEO did this...
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why don't you educate me as to what the scope lawsuit was about......it says plain as day in our contract any flying will be done by pilots on the Pinnacle seniority list. Pinnacle forms Pinnacle Corp and buys Colgan to award turboprob flying to pilots who they can pay less money to....hires like crazy for a while on the COlgan side, meanwhile we are displacing CA's
Scope is there to prevent other pilots from another seniority list flying your aircraft/routes etc, and also to prevent the purchase/lease of aircraft for another company to be flown by the other company. If you have a different definition I would like to hear it....
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My questions are: since it appears RAH will own Midwest sooner than later, when are the 717s going, are Midwest pilots interested in integrating, and could you fly for RAH given recent history?
Also is Republic going to fly 190s on the Midwest cert or the Republic cert or some other cert?
Also is Republic going to fly 190s on the Midwest cert or the Republic cert or some other cert?
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had a midwest jumpseater who had a wise understanding of their unfortunate deal.
if your regional company/ceo (skywest, asa, mesa, pinn, etc) did exactly what republic did to midwest. how would you as the pilot group do anything differently?
- understand you as the pilots have no control over the decision to get 190's.
if your regional company/ceo (skywest, asa, mesa, pinn, etc) did exactly what republic did to midwest. how would you as the pilot group do anything differently?
- understand you as the pilots have no control over the decision to get 190's.
So, regarding the jumpseat.... what did you expect?
Keep telling yourself that. Nobody else negotiated rates for 190's.... that will probably change now, since you guys have lowered the bar so much, others will be forced to compete or lose their jobs because of you too...
Here you go again, trying to rationalize what you're doing. There is a difference between being bought and merged, and furloughed/locked out and repalced....
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ygtb kidding me. I've never brought colgan pilots into any of my posts. It's not their fault. DO a little search of my post before you throw false accusations....
why don't you educate me as to what the scope lawsuit was about......it says plain as day in our contract any flying will be done by pilots on the Pinnacle seniority list. Pinnacle forms Pinnacle Corp and buys Colgan to award turboprob flying to pilots who they can pay less money to....hires like crazy for a while on the COlgan side, meanwhile we are displacing CA's
Scope is there to prevent other pilots from another seniority list flying your aircraft/routes etc, and also to prevent the purchase/lease of aircraft for another company to be flown by the other company. If you have a different definition I would like to hear it....
why don't you educate me as to what the scope lawsuit was about......it says plain as day in our contract any flying will be done by pilots on the Pinnacle seniority list. Pinnacle forms Pinnacle Corp and buys Colgan to award turboprob flying to pilots who they can pay less money to....hires like crazy for a while on the COlgan side, meanwhile we are displacing CA's
Scope is there to prevent other pilots from another seniority list flying your aircraft/routes etc, and also to prevent the purchase/lease of aircraft for another company to be flown by the other company. If you have a different definition I would like to hear it....
Wasn't there a similar case involving RAH.... with the court ruling that Republic Holdings and Republic Airlines were basically alter-ego's of eachother...
Sounds like you guys have a good case... good luck.
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Like you sig says Mason. Fly the contract and nothing more. That's what we're doing and that's what Midwest guys are doing. ALPA dropped the ball huge by allowing a hole big enough for a shark like BB to drive a Mac truck through.
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ha ha that's funny. Just like Colgan didn't get around Pinnacle's scope, even tho the mediator said they did initially then went back and said, oh you are 2 separate companies even though the top management is all the same and the money is funneled from one company to the other...
you keep telling yourself you are 2 separate companies.

you keep telling yourself you are 2 separate companies.
Delta - Comair and now Northwest-Compass et all...
USAir - Mesaba-Piedmont
AMR - AA & AE
Nothing new there my friend
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