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Old 06-14-2009 | 07:47 AM
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Another way to take away.

We are pilots, not economists!Start the apu when you get on board!-We never get a fuel savings rebate! Report maintenance when it happens!-NO waiting to get back to base(if it happens in canada, its stays in canada!).Fly Slow, Walk Slow, answer your phone only when the trip is over!

We can't live like this! We are destoying our own futures!

Its destroying flying for the future by just sitting there and letting management run their companies into shallow water while searching for a profit.

Its time to take control-They must know how much power we have!

If your captain or F/O doesnt want to change , when its your leg to fly you fly it how you want to fly it. Block to Block no less! Your getting paid for it anyway why shorten it. You are just sitting there anyway! We must unite and get this done.
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Old 06-14-2009 | 07:50 AM
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I'm so inspired I could take a dump now.
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Old 06-14-2009 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by BringDaFunk

We are pilots, not economists!Start the apu when you get on board!-We never get a fuel savings rebate! Report maintenance when it happens!-NO waiting to get back to base(if it happens in canada, its stays in canada!).Fly Slow, Walk Slow, answer your phone only when the trip is over!

We can't live like this! We are destoying our own futures!

Its destroying flying for the future by just sitting there and letting management run their companies into shallow water while searching for a profit.

Its time to take control-They must know how much power we have!

If your captain or F/O doesnt want to change , when its your leg to fly you fly it how you want to fly it. Block to Block no less! Your getting paid for it anyway why shorten it. You are just sitting there anyway! We must unite and get this done.
We are professional pilots. The economics do matter. Try taking that attitude to a corporate job.

Start the APU in accordance to SOP. Repeated violation of SOP only serves to undermine you.

You should always report Mx items when they occur. This shouldn't be revolutionary.

Fly slow, but do not intentionally make it more difficult for your passengers to make their connections. People do need to come back in order for you to keep your job.

Walk slow... no. Walk at a normal pace. When you walk slow in public areas, the public notices. This only reinforces the general notion that pilots are lazy. Just keep pace with the flow of pedestrian traffic, and don't call attention to yourself in the public eye.
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Old 06-14-2009 | 08:29 AM
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This only reinforces the general notion that pilots are lazy. Just keep pace with the flow of pedestrian traffic, and don't call attention to yourself in the public eye.
Quotes like:I'm so inspired I could take a dump now.

Reinforce not only the general notion that pilots are lazy, but that they are just dumb.So help out your friend over there.People will always come back no matter what.
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Old 06-14-2009 | 08:35 AM
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Just fly the SOP. No need for any of this ridiculousness.
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Old 06-14-2009 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Rightseat Ballast
We are professional pilots. The economics do matter. Try taking that attitude to a corporate job.
We are indeed professional pilots and our job is to get from point A to point B safely and legally. Ultimately, the economics of your employer has nothing to do with doing our jobs. If our employer wants something changed that will save them money, they'll put it in the manual. Economics are an ancillary concern at best.

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You should always report Mx items when they occur. This shouldn't be revolutionary.
I agree, it should not be revolutionary. However, it would indeed be revolutionary. The fact remains, carrying write-ups is modus operandi with the industry. Are you saying that you never carried a little item to get the job done?

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Fly slow, but do not intentionally make it more difficult for your passengers to make their connections. People do need to come back in order for you to keep your job.
He didn't say to intentionally make it difficult for passengers. He said to fly no better than scheduled block to block. Anyone with any appreciable time in this business knows that setting such precedents will eventually lead to tighter and less reasonable scheduling. i.e. if a a large enough number of pilots are making turns quicker than scheduled, the turns will eventually get scheduled for less time.

Originally Posted by Rightseat Ballast
Walk slow... no. Walk at a normal pace. When you walk slow in public areas, the public notices. This only reinforces the general notion that pilots are lazy. Just keep pace with the flow of pedestrian traffic, and don't call attention to yourself in the public eye.
Exactly. I have a normal pace for when I have to be somewhere, which is a pretty average pace. Then I have another normal pace (slower) for when I have time to kill. Being in uniform won't change my slower normal pace. In this regard, I couldn't care less what the public thinks because, A, I doubt your assertion that this would reinforce any imagined perception that we're lazy. B. Even if your concern had validity, let them think it. As long as my tie is straight, uniform pressed and I'm not wearing headphones while walking, it won't give the public any negative impressions, subconscious or otherwise. Besides. there is no one flow of pedestrian traffic.


BringDaFunk's post is spot on.
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Old 06-14-2009 | 08:53 AM
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um....what?
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Old 06-14-2009 | 09:40 AM
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um....what?
Excellent point! I especially appreciate your clarity, detail and how specific you are......and you leave no ambiguity whatsoever!
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Old 06-14-2009 | 09:49 AM
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I'm just waiting for the "you are lucky to have a job" statement to show up. Cram it.
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Old 06-14-2009 | 10:04 AM
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I'm so inspired I could take a dump now.
I think it was the coffee, no?
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