ASA this Fall
 

Where do you see ASA this fall?

Currently we already know how our staffing levels are playing out. We also understand why they never called the furloughs back. The 20, CRJ200s probably will have a home, at least management seems certain. If all the pieces fall into play, do you still see them slimming more pilots? Does it take more pilots to run 20 CRJs at a different airline (possibly even another base) then if we kept them here in ATL for Delta?

Just wondering...

By home did the mean operating them for another carrier or did they mean they found a place for them to go (ie, they found someone to take them off of their hands)?

they dont have a plan for them. their master "plan" is for mesa to go under and then hopefully someone will need more 50's. thats why they keep saying, "we dont have any flying for them, but were confident we'll find something."

but to answer the question, i dont think much will change (staffing wise) in the fall. they will most likely wait until spring when the fate of the planes will be decided.

This is all just me guessing

This sounds like what XJT management kept telling the pilot group after CAL announced they would be pulling 69 aircraft from the CAL fleet. The only flying they ever found was the Branded Flying, & that lasted only a year before getting the ax. The 50 seater is dying fast, particularly in the DAL world. Good Luck guys.

I hope something good happens for ASA this fall but I just have that feeling this fall is going to be rough for the entire industry.

ya they have mentioned something similar. they are saying that they will keep them flying for delta into cities that delta doesnt serve. atlantic city is one of them. asa would take responsibility for the losses and profits would be shared with delta. you have to assume that delta pulled out of ACY for a reason, so i dont know why they want to start their own service into there. especially with fuel going up again. they will keep telling us that they have a plan for them in order to keep morale up for as long as possible.

I think we're gonna find out whether or not the "No Furlough" Clause is worth the paper it's written on.

Well, they can furlough a bunch more to reach the limit of guys not on the protected list.

Why is ASA the only other DCI expected to feel the pain (Comair) of the 50 seat loss? Why not add Pinnacle, Mesaba and CHQ to the list...

Also, Delta still needs feed. They are not replacing 50's with more 70's/90's, so it stands to reason that not such a drastic amount of 50's can/will be shed! Delta needs the hubs fed, and right now the 50 does the bulk of this feeding. Take it FWIW.

I wouldn't put too much on the fact that 50 seaters will continue to survive and thrive in the DCI fleet. This is from an employee online chat with Steve Gorman, EVP and COO of Delta.

Steve said... (Jun 10, 2009 1:14:52 PM)
Pre-submitted Question: What is the RJ Fleet Plan?
Answer: We still have too much 50-seat lift. That said, we have either negotiated or have natural lease returns of 50-seaters over the next few years of: 2009 - 21 (plus another 10 Saabs); 2010 - 35; 2011 - 24; 2012 - 44. Even with that aggressive return schedule, we may seek to return 50-seaters earlier and are working on deals for that now.


Sorry for the bad news.:(

Um mesaba is parking 10 airplanes and probably going to furlough. We are not running our airplanes to full capacity at all and were just given the worst travel benefits in the whole DCI system. Express Jet got totally cut, Compass is in danger of getting their whole list flushed out the door so you are def not the only ones feeling pain but being specific to your 50 seat loss, its all about the contracts that are signed with delta. Your management decided to trade 2 for 1. Ours probably will soon as well.