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Old 06-21-2009, 06:50 AM
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Regional airlines’ share of flights has grown : Home: The Buffalo News

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Given that Continental’s name was on the fuselage of Flight 3407, the families of the crash’s victims say they can’t understand why Continental seems to be escaping scrutiny for its relationship with Colgan.

Mike Loftus, a former Continental pilot whose daughter, Madeline, died aboard that flight, said his daughter bought a Continental ticket assuming she would have the level of service she had come to expect from that airline.

Told that major carriers had refused to testify at last week’s Senate hearing on airline safety, Loftus said: “I think they’re trying to distance themselves from the crash.”


“In a regulatory world, everybody has to meet the same standards,” Rice said, “but in the practical world, some airlines do more than others.”


“I worry that, because of economics or whatever, we’re trying to do things on the cheap,” Sen. Mike Johanns, R-Neb., said of the regional airlines.


Rice, of the pilots union, complained that such outsourcing has now reached an entirely new level, where regionals are subcontracting with lower-cost regionals to cut costs even further.


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In my opinion, the more bad press against outsourced regionals, the better for pilots. Standards in both pay and safety need to be increased without a doubt.
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Double yawn..... This crash is no different then any other pilot error accident. It has nothing to do with regional outsourcing or pay. Or regional training. It's quite possible that regional pilots are less professional than at the majors but it's hard to be professional when you are not treated as one. That's not something the gov can help out with.
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Double yawn..... This crash is no different then any other pilot error accident. It has nothing to do with regional outsourcing or pay. Or regional training. It's quite possible that regional pilots are less professional than at the majors but it's hard to be professional when you are not treated as one. That's not something the gov can help out with.
It is hard to treat someone as a professional when they don't act like one.
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Lack of attention to airspeed. Pay, rest, commuting, training, and pilot records has nothing to do with airspeed. Paying attention to airspeed is basic airmanship.
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TurboDVR42, AirWillie, flycrj200 -

I think you missed the point of the thread. The title is "a good summary of regionals on the news."

Now, within that is some stuff to do with the Colgan crash that shouldn't have happened.

But do you not at least agree with the points made about cost-cutting and doing things on the cheap with no effort made to surpass the minimum standards?
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Im curious where is the coverage, of the 4 major carriers that crashed or is that becase continental's failed rejected take off and usair's miracle in the river no one lost their lives and did they forget about fedex. Air france is starting to drift off the scene. in the last 7 months 5 airplanes have crashed 1 was a regional and we are the bad pilots.
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It is hard to treat someone as a professional when they don't act like one.
If we acted like professionals would they start treating us like professionals?? Absolutely not.
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Originally Posted by flynwmn View Post
Im curious where is the coverage, of the 4 major carriers that crashed or is that becase continental's failed rejected take off and usair's miracle in the river no one lost their lives and did they forget about fedex. Air france is starting to drift off the scene. in the last 7 months 5 airplanes have crashed 1 was a regional and we are the bad pilots.
You have to understand that the media, politicians, and the public love to see blood and lots of dead bodies.
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Originally Posted by RatherBeFishing View Post
If we acted like professionals would they start treating us like professionals?? Absolutely not.
Maybe not, but Thats just a guess. What i do know is that if you do not act like one, you will not be treated like one.
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