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Originally Posted by Edwin
(Post 647789)
I am sure a lot of Midwest pilots can't wait to meet some to these republic guys. So Toilet Duck, please tell us what you are going to say on your first flight with a Midwest 20 plus year captain.
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Originally Posted by GoBlue
(Post 647918)
Since the duck is on the 145, I doubt he will come across a 20 year Midwest captain. But, don't let the facts get in the way of a good insult.
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Originally Posted by STILL GROUNDED
(Post 647874)
Chances are the Midwest employee would be more responsible and mature then you and simply remind this young man of the unfortunate few that have lost their jobs in this transaction. BTW, prior to the last furlough announcement, the Midex MEC approached management to reduce the line values to min guarentee in order to save some jobs and were flat turned down by Republic management. Actions speak louder than words. And another BTW, does it really take you that many words to say "I have the airplane" or is this a Repubic thing? |
Originally Posted by texaspilot76
(Post 647748)
Just so everyone on here knows what the real mentality of Republic employees are:
There was a Republic employee on my commute yesterday. I overheard the conversation between this individual and the flight attendant, and this individual couldn't help exclaiming "I can't wait till the 190's get here! They will be so nice! We are really moving up!" No joke, this is how these people think. I would love to be there when the same bragging occurs in front of a furloughed Midwest employee. |
Originally Posted by Dougdrvr
(Post 647928)
Simply amazing that you can say this and then post what you did above in #115. At least have the decency to put a smiley behind it? Or maybe you were serious.
BTW, prior to the last furlough announcement, the Midex MEC approached management to reduce the line values to min guarentee in order to save some jobs and were flat turned down by Republic management. Actions speak louder than words. And another BTW, does it really take you that many words to say "I have the airplane" or is this a Repubic thing? |
Originally Posted by ToiletDuck
(Post 647920)
140 :D
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Originally Posted by 320ToBearz
(Post 648002)
Run from the blue chicken.....
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Originally Posted by STILL GROUNDED
(Post 647863)
Here's one Duck, "you get the clearance yet?" or how about "my brakes, my steering, my controls, what gate are we at?"
With responses like this to migitate a real midwest pilot is why everyone knows all the republic group is happy to get 190s and doesnt care about anything but there group. Standing in line to get a coffee in LGA and hearing a republic guy state "we have aquired midwest and are waiting final approval from a judge for us to buy frontier". this happens everywhere and alot more than you RAH guys think. I hauled an RAH fo on the jump about a month back and he said were finally getting 190s and said that a 3 dollar and hour increase would be OK to fly it. I hope rah gets a killer contract but with the pilots i run into and teamsters??? |
Again, I want to hear from Republic pilots. What are you going to do when the first 190 flies in Midwest colors. Midwest guys have a contract with much stronger language concerning scope on the sale of the company. It clearly states any aircraft with Midwest on it will be flown by Midwest flight crews. If you hang "Connect" behind the Midwest, you are violating Delta's scope. IF you fly them before Midwest is meshed with you, you are a scab. So which is it? Violate Delta or Midwest?
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If the union was worth a P@^# it would have this figured out. I will probably do the same thing you would do. Think about only myself and fly the damn plane. I have a family to feed too. If you think that any of your actions are going to change any action from managment you are diluted. Accept your position as a pawn. Do what your are payed to do. Hope that the guy above you dosen't crap on your head and quit wining!!!!
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Originally Posted by Edwin
(Post 647915)
"Unfortunate few" means over half the company. They lost their jobs to you. You are more than willing to come in and do their flying for less than half of what they were making. I would be irresponsible myself if I did not remind you of that fact.
Originally Posted by Dougdrvr
(Post 647928)
Simply amazing that you can say this and then post what you did above in #115. At least have the decency to put a smiley behind it? Or maybe you were serious.
Originally Posted by Dougdrvr
(Post 647928)
BTW, prior to the last furlough announcement, the Midex MEC approached management to reduce the line values to min guarantee in order to save some jobs and were flat turned down by Republic management. Actions speak louder than words.
Originally Posted by Dougdrvr
(Post 647928)
And another BTW, does it really take you that many words to say "I have the airplane" or is this a Republic thing?
Look it sucks, all the way around. I will most likely be getting bumped down. I've slipped over 20 spots in base since the industry took a turn. Do I like the fact that our company has stepped in and taken over a once respected airline that fought and lost to be on their own. No I don't but that's the way its working out. I didn't get a call on the Bat phone from Bryan one night a year ago asking what I thought of all this. It was a surprise to the entire pilot group, they stuffed our union with this crap on a press release. The company is currently showing no respect to the union or the pilot group with regards to planning. Now throw in the fact that the rest of the industries pilots think we are any worse then any of them for things they are just as guilty of and you start becoming a bit defensive. Instead of sharing the things that made Midwest so great, you have automatically assumed we can't do it. I've looked the seats are just as wide, they recline just as much as Midwest coach does. As long as people don't carry on 3 bags each or some inconsiderate "I'm better then you" idiot doesn't lay his suit coat flat across an empty bin there should be adequate carry on space. Regardless of what you think our pilots fly airplanes just as well as yours and theirs do. Our company does not skimp on maintenance and safety. We don't tool around all day at .68 unless we are very early and don't need to spend the money on fuel. So what it is, what makes it impossible for Republic to maintain the brand standard? Lighten up and start offering something constructive. Otherwise deal with it, its already happened. |
Ill preface this by saying, I dont know all the bits and pieces of the Midwest/ RAH deal, but I have a question.
Did RAH just buy out a company that was about to go under? Was this a simple takeover? If either are what happened then "How the heck" can Midwest pilots all of a sudden just throw all the blame for this on the RAH pilots, like they stole someones job. If your company was going under, it seems rediculous to think that all the RAH pilots had a secret meeting asking BB to buy Midwest so they can steal your flying and screw you over. I admit it seems the Midwest guys got hosed, but you cant salvage anything if all your anger is directed at the wrong people, its wasted energy that will acomplish nothing...:eek: |
You may have a family feed but you are feeding it at the expense of someone else. You are going to see"Whinning" if this senoirity issue is not settled and the Midwest pilots file a grievence in which BB cannot win. When he bought Midwest, he bought the contract. It is valid until the merger is approved by the pilots of Midwest. If you fly an airplane that my fellow pilots should be flying, you are a SCAB. Any other questions?
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Midwest was not in Chapter 11. Should it had been? Hell yes. If it had been, we would still have our airplanes and Republic would not be flying our routes. It sold for 450 mill in Jan of 08. NWA raped it of its cash to fund its merger with Delta. TH refused to take it to CHP 11 in order to save his golden parachute. Are we angry? You bet. Wouldn't you be when pilots willing to do your job for less than half jump at the chance to do it? That's what we face.
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Originally Posted by Edwin
(Post 648207)
You may have a family feed but you are feeding it at the expense of someone else. You are going to see"Whinning" if this senoirity issue is not settled and the Midwest pilots file a grievence in which BB cannot win. When he bought Midwest, he bought the contract. It is valid until the merger is approved by the pilots of Midwest. If you fly an airplane that my fellow pilots should be flying, you are a SCAB. Any other questions?
Ok so now that I've been on APC for a year let me see if I finally have this straight...disclaimer the below info ive posted is what Ive heard other people on apc speak as the truth.... IF a pilot that works(worked) at another outfit doesnt like you or somthing your company does than you are a scab(psuedo-scab, blah blah blah) So its basically no matter who you work for, if your company merges with another and someone from the other pilot group gets screwed, then by default you are a scab ( this is absolute bunk ), so by my calculations we will all be scabs by 2020..yee hah:eek: Ok, Im simply proving a point, all you people scream about bettering the industry. The mudslinging and namecalling will never fix anything. Everyday some post on here reminds me of the Hatfields and Mccoys..oops I probably dated myself:D |
Originally Posted by Edwin
(Post 648209)
Midwest was not in Chapter 11. Should it had been? Hell yes. If it had been, we would still have our airplanes and Republic would not be flying our routes. It sold for 450 mill in Jan of 08. NWA raped it of its cash to fund its merger with Delta. TH refused to take it to CHP 11 in order to save his golden parachute. Are we angry? You bet. Wouldn't you be when pilots willing to do your job for less than half jump at the chance to do it? That's what we face.
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Originally Posted by STILL GROUNDED
(Post 648193)
Edwin you 'll need to blame oil for that one. That is what put Midwest into this spiral to begin with. They had a lot of layoffs even before we were even on the scene. How about the Skyway guys when Skywest moved in, I don't remember a big huff about that.
Whoops, you're right :D But to be honest I don't find it all that funny. I did it mostly for Edwins' benefit since he felt the need to call the Duck out for as the Duck replied, something he was not guilty of. I think its a damn shame that anyone of us at Republic could end up sitting left seat to such a supreme being that based on what I read here the Midwest pilot must be. Do they glow? This seems to be a Republic thing because our union tried the same thing when WE furloughed and they denied it. Its cheaper to work few harder. Sorry, but that's business, not that I like it. I bid mid sked every month in a show of support to our furloughed brothers. Nope it just sounded flashier that and you say I have the controls from either seat. Steering's only on the left. Look it sucks, all the way around. I will most likely be getting bumped down. I've slipped over 20 spots in base since the industry took a turn. Do I like the fact that our company has stepped in and taken over a once respected airline that fought and lost to be on their own. No I don't but that's the way its working out. I didn't get a call on the Bat phone from Bryan one night a year ago asking what I thought of all this. It was a surprise to the entire pilot group, they stuffed our union with this crap on a press release. The company is currently showing no respect to the union or the pilot group with regards to planning. Now throw in the fact that the rest of the industries pilots think we are any worse then any of them for things they are just as guilty of and you start becoming a bit defensive. Instead of sharing the things that made Midwest so great, you have automatically assumed we can't do it. I've looked the seats are just as wide, they recline just as much as Midwest coach does. As long as people don't carry on 3 bags each or some inconsiderate "I'm better then you" idiot doesn't lay his suit coat flat across an empty bin there should be adequate carry on space. Regardless of what you think our pilots fly airplanes just as well as yours and theirs do. Our company does not skimp on maintenance and safety. We don't tool around all day at .68 unless we are very early and don't need to spend the money on fuel. So what it is, what makes it impossible for Republic to maintain the brand standard? Lighten up and start offering something constructive. Otherwise deal with it, its already happened. |
Originally Posted by likeitis
(Post 648234)
By this last paragraph it is obvious that you can't provide the service Midwest is know for. How much time did Republic spend on customer service in your new hire training? During your interview for RAH, were you tested for traits that would be a good fit for a company that is customer focused? Since I spent a brief period at CHQ I know the answer is 0 and not a single customer care related question. At Midwest the interview was an all day event with 75% of it testing your personality for traits that are typical of people with strong customer service skills. You see when you are not a bottom feeding regional you can focus on hiring quality people who happen to be good pilots vs. finding anyone with a pilot certificate.
and this is relevant to the thread how? Because pilots locked behind a reinforced cockpit door have sooo much face-to-face interaction? a RAh guy can stand at the door and say "hello" just as good as any other YX guy. throwing bags is a union labor violation and frowned on from an OJI standpoint. PAX PAs aren't terribly difficult to read from a script. Wearing a uniform has been a challenge industry-wide lately so that can't be a factor..... so what is it exactly? Because GRS didn't have a day long customer service section they somehow can't fly a plane? Until there is a strike somewhere, SCAB is not a correct term. |
Originally Posted by DLAJ77;648152"
we have aquired midwest and are waiting final approval from a judge for us to buy frontier". this happens everywhere and alot more than you RAH guys think.
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Originally Posted by likeitis
(Post 648234)
Since I spent a brief period at CHQ I know the answer is 0 and not a single customer care related question.
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Originally Posted by sizzlechest
(Post 648275)
and this is relevant to the thread how? Because pilots locked behind a reinforced cockpit door have sooo much face-to-face interaction? a RAh guy can stand at the door and say "hello" just as good as any other YX guy. throwing bags is a union labor violation and frowned on from an OJI standpoint. PAX PAs aren't terribly difficult to read from a script. Wearing a uniform has been a challenge industry-wide lately so that can't be a factor..... so what is it exactly? Because GRS didn't have a day long customer service section they somehow can't fly a plane? Until there is a strike somewhere, SCAB is not a correct term.
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Originally Posted by Edwin
(Post 648286)
sizzlechest: I don't expect any Republic pilot to understand or admit that you have taken our jobs. You never once complained. Your pilot group never stood up to BB and told him what he was doing was not right. You never ran any adds in the MJS explaining yourselves. You just came in with a smile on your face and a "To bad about Midwest" attitude. You people are so use to doing what you do, YOU JUST DON'T GET IT. Well, I am here to remind you. If you fly an airplane that I have a contractual right to fly, and I have not agreed to allow you fly that airplane, you are a scab. End of story.
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Originally Posted by TillerEnvy
(Post 648294)
Edwin, you just don't get it, do you? I'm convicned you are nothing but a troll and looking for flame bait, so I'm not going to spend too much time with you, but I'll play for a minute. The part that makes me ponder was your line about us flying a route that you have a contractual right to fly. What route would that be and by what contract would that be? From the start, our union has told us that if YX were to strike, we'd be off the routes from day one. No contract was broken..we know that as from day 1 we looked at it all to see if what YX management was doing was legal..guess what, it was. Happy about what happened over there? Never. 100% completely out of our hands? Absolutely. Do the YX guys deserve this at all, especially flying the 190 for bad rates? Nope. All any of us can do is make sure the new contract we're trying to hammer out right now is where it should be. I truly don't think you're at YX, but for the sake of playing with you, you can't get mad at your own management because they're giving you the finger and not listening, so it's easy for you to lash out at us. We get it. We'll keep doing our jobs, getting the contract we deserve, with or without you, it's up do you.
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Originally Posted by TillerEnvy
(Post 648294)
Edwin, you just don't get it, do you? I'm convicned you are nothing but a troll and looking for flame bait, so I'm not going to spend too much time with you, but I'll play for a minute. The part that makes me ponder was your line about us flying a route that you have a contractual right to fly. What route would that be and by what contract would that be? From the start, our union has told us that if YX were to strike, we'd be off the routes from day one. No contract was broken..we know that as from day 1 we looked at it all to see if what YX management was doing was legal..guess what, it was. Happy about what happened over there? Never. 100% completely out of our hands? Absolutely. Do the YX guys deserve this at all, especially flying the 190 for bad rates? Nope. All any of us can do is make sure the new contract we're trying to hammer out right now is where it should be. I truly don't think you're at YX, but for the sake of playing with you, you can't get mad at your own management because they're giving you the finger and not listening, so it's easy for you to lash out at us. We get it. We'll keep doing our jobs, getting the contract we deserve, with or without you, it's up do you.
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Originally Posted by TillerEnvy
(Post 648294)
Edwin, you just don't get it, do you? I'm convicned you are nothing but a troll and looking for flame bait
Originally Posted by Edwin
(Post 648502)
You have 10 days to get us on your side.
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Originally Posted by Edwin
(Post 648502)
Thank you for proving my point. Still no outcry on behalf of the Midwest pilots by the Republic pilots. I am hoping to gather the names of the Republic pilots who fly our routes in airplanes without the "Connect" on the side of them. Scab lists circulate quickly in this business. You have 10 days to get us on your side. I would suggest you push your management for a quick meshing of contracts and seniority list. As for your rates, they are pathetic. If I would have wanted those rates, I would have applied at Republic.
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Originally Posted by Edwin
(Post 648502)
Thank you for proving my point. Still no outcry on behalf of the Midwest pilots by the Republic pilots. I am hoping to gather the names of the Republic pilots who fly our routes in airplanes without the "Connect" on the side of them. Scab lists circulate quickly in this business. You have 10 days to get us on your side. I would suggest you push your management for a quick meshing of contracts and seniority list. As for your rates, they are pathetic. If I would have wanted those rates, I would have applied at Republic.
Edwin 'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. :mad: |
Originally Posted by texaspilot76
(Post 647748)
Just so everyone on here knows what the real mentality of Republic employees are:
There was a Republic employee on my commute yesterday. I overheard the conversation between this individual and the flight attendant, and this individual couldn't help exclaiming "I can't wait till the 190's get here! They will be so nice! We are really moving up!" No joke, this is how these people think. I would love to be there when the same bragging occurs in front of a furloughed Midwest employee. First, was this employee a pilot, an intern, a flight attendant, management, etc or what? Do you know? If he/she was a pilot, then I can assure you that their opinion doesn't reflect "how these people think." It does reflect how that ONE, UNO, SINGULAR, INDIVIDUAL person thinks. I am a RAH pilot so I'm just guessing here, but I probably have a little more insight into "how these people think" than you do. I am not happy about the 190's (I did not and will not bid for that flying) and I pray that someone outbids RAH for Frontier. Everyone of my peers that has expressed their opinion to me, is not happy about any of this. THAT would be closer to "how these people think." But, I still will not say that is how all think, because I would guess that there are a few that are happy about all of this. There are idiots in every group, as you have so obviously demonstrated; both by what that employee said and your post. Overhearing ONE conversation does not give you insight into a general consensus. Using your logic, if I overheard ONE of your company's employees stating racist views, I could advertise on a public forum that you and your peers are all racists. Would that be an accurate and fair statement? How do you feel about being an unsafe, dangerous, inexperienced, poorly trained regional airline pilot? What's that? You're not? But you are, according to your logic. Remember, the recent Colgan accident? We all violate sterile cockpit. We all don't have the training or experience to recover from a stall. We all would have crashed if we were in that Q400 that night. Of course that isn't true, but you are the one that is painting in huge, broad strokes when the situation required a 00 paint brush. I would guess that you revel in posting inflammatory comments. It's childish and unprofessional. |
Originally Posted by texaspilot76
(Post 647748)
Just so everyone on here knows what the real mentality of Republic employees are:
There was a Republic employee on my commute yesterday. I overheard the conversation between this individual and the flight attendant, and this individual couldn't help exclaiming "I can't wait till the 190's get here! They will be so nice! We are really moving up!" No joke, this is how these people think. I would love to be there when the same bragging occurs in front of a furloughed Midwest employee. Wordvomit... |
Originally Posted by Edwin
(Post 648286)
sizzlechest: I don't expect any Republic pilot to understand or admit that you have taken our jobs. You never once complained. Your pilot group never stood up to BB and told him what he was doing was not right. You never ran any adds in the MJS explaining yourselves. You just came in with a smile on your face and a "To bad about Midwest" attitude. You people are so use to doing what you do, YOU JUST DON'T GET IT. Well, I am here to remind you. If you fly an airplane that I have a contractual right to fly, and I have not agreed to allow you fly that airplane, you are a scab. End of story.
I have nothing but respect for the MidEx pilot group and I really hope that the integration gets done swiftly and fairly and that the two groups can put their differences behind them and move forward together to get the contract that everyone in this industry needs. |
Trojan USC: Would you be willing to allow a furloughed 15 year captain the right to move ahead of you in seniority? He is furloughed because of you. You took his job.
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Originally Posted by Edwin
(Post 648923)
Trojan USC: Would you be willing to allow a furloughed 15 year captain the right to move ahead of you in seniority? He is furloughed because of you. You took his job.
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Mr. Edwin~
Please go ahead and pass the list around. It'll do nothing but make it harder for you when/if you do come over. And in regards to your "list", if there truly is going to be some kind of problem regarding the Connect not being on the airplane, those initial planes (and maybe all of them) will be placed under the Republic certificate. We bought Midwest and are the owners of the 190's. Midwest now = Republic = Midwest = Republic, get it? 190's on our own certificate. And you better get going on that list as the first 190 was put in the system yesterday to give ground personnel some experience with it and will be flying routes all week with pax on board. It'll be showing up in CMH on Thursday and doing routes from there. In regards to the list integration, I don't know how that's going to work. Date of hire? Heck no. Staple? Heck no. It'll be a proportional basis; whether it's 5:1, 10:1, 20:1, 30:1, I have no clue. The unions are trying to work that out now. It'll be a successful integration when both sides are ****ed off. The furloughs is going to be an ugly situation as we both have them. I don't have an answer as to where the furloughs should go. I fully expect and want the 190 payrate issue in our contract to go to an arbitrator as we'll end up winning in the end. JB has their new rates and Airways will soon be going back to their pre-9/11 rates when the concessions expire this year. If you truly are at YX Edwin, I'm shocked. Most of the guys I've met there have been professional, courteous, mature and would rather talk to me (us) about the issues than act like my 4 year old. Thence why I think you are a troll. |
Again Mr. Tiller, you bought my contract and my seniority. I did not want you. You wanted me. Violate my contract and you, sir, are on the list. End of story.
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Originally Posted by Edwin
(Post 649000)
Again Mr. Tiller, you bought my contract and my seniority. I did not want you. You wanted me. Violate my contract and you, sir, are on the list. End of story.
Thanks for the entertainment factor and for keeping this thread on life support. |
Originally Posted by Edwin
(Post 649000)
Again Mr. Tiller, you bought my contract and my seniority. I did not want you. You wanted me. Violate my contract and you, sir, are on the list. End of story.
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Originally Posted by TillerEnvy
(Post 648980)
Mr. Edwin~
Please go ahead and pass the list around. It'll do nothing but make it harder for you when/if you do come over. And in regards to your "list", if there truly is going to be some kind of problem regarding the Connect not being on the airplane, those initial planes (and maybe all of them) will be placed under the Republic certificate. We bought Midwest and are the owners of the 190's. Midwest now = Republic = Midwest = Republic, get it? 190's on our own certificate. And you better get going on that list as the first 190 was put in the system yesterday to give ground personnel some experience with it and will be flying routes all week with pax on board. It'll be showing up in CMH on Thursday and doing routes from there. In regards to the list integration, I don't know how that's going to work. Date of hire? Heck no. Staple? Heck no. It'll be a proportional basis; whether it's 5:1, 10:1, 20:1, 30:1, I have no clue. The unions are trying to work that out now. It'll be a successful integration when both sides are ****ed off. The furloughs is going to be an ugly situation as we both have them. I don't have an answer as to where the furloughs should go. I fully expect and want the 190 payrate issue in our contract to go to an arbitrator as we'll end up winning in the end. JB has their new rates and Airways will soon be going back to their pre-9/11 rates when the concessions expire this year. If you truly are at YX Edwin, I'm shocked. Most of the guys I've met there have been professional, courteous, mature and would rather talk to me (us) about the issues than act like my 4 year old. Thence why I think you are a troll. Now if BB wants to put Connect on the side it can be argued that it violates the arbitrators ruling on code share as you can't code share with yourself. Once the actual corporate merger is complete ALPA could file a grievance for all Connect flying to be done by midwest pilots as the arbitrator's ruling gave the company relief on scope by declaring code sharing acceptable. Like I said before you can't code share with yourself. Now ALPA could give BB some relief with a LOA in these things but there is going to have to be large rewards for ALPA to consider such relief. |
Originally Posted by TillerEnvy
(Post 648980)
Mr. Edwin~
Please go ahead and pass the list around. It'll do nothing but make it harder for you when/if you do come over. And in regards to your "list", if there truly is going to be some kind of problem regarding the Connect not being on the airplane, those initial planes (and maybe all of them) will be placed under the Republic certificate. We bought Midwest and are the owners of the 190's. Midwest now = Republic = Midwest = Republic, get it? 190's on our own certificate. And you better get going on that list as the first 190 was put in the system yesterday to give ground personnel some experience with it and will be flying routes all week with pax on board. It'll be showing up in CMH on Thursday and doing routes from there. In regards to the list integration, I don't know how that's going to work. Date of hire? Heck no. Staple? Heck no. It'll be a proportional basis; whether it's 5:1, 10:1, 20:1, 30:1, I have no clue. The unions are trying to work that out now. It'll be a successful integration when both sides are ****ed off. The furloughs is going to be an ugly situation as we both have them. I don't have an answer as to where the furloughs should go. I fully expect and want the 190 payrate issue in our contract to go to an arbitrator as we'll end up winning in the end. JB has their new rates and Airways will soon be going back to their pre-9/11 rates when the concessions expire this year. If you truly are at YX Edwin, I'm shocked. Most of the guys I've met there have been professional, courteous, mature and would rather talk to me (us) about the issues than act like my 4 year old. Thence why I think you are a troll.
Originally Posted by TillerEnvy
(Post 649008)
Trust me Mr. Ed...I did not want you nor your dying airline. My only hopes is that BB has something else up his sleeve. Your contract becomes nothing with those planes on our certificate my friend. The ugly truth.
your contradicting yourself....you say you bought midwest and the flying is yours but at the same time the pilots are just as much midwest as the flying is....think about what you say before you say it |
And here we go once again. Another corporate merger and now two pilot groups are going to battle. Gotta love it, Old TWA, East-West, now RAH-MDW. I love how all you guys spout change to the industry lets pull together, end the whipsaw. Guess What ..PILOTS ARE WHAT IS DESTROYING THIS INDUSTRY...YOU CANT GET TWO PILOTS TO COMPROMISE on what they had for breakfast, AND HENCE THINGS WILL CONTINUE DOWN. I guess we all should just get on with it since no matter what you do, someone thinks you stole their job, so guess theres no point in worrying anymore, because with or without it you are going to get blamed for something, by some entitled jack---. Keep up the great attitude, and mabye youll drive us all to think of only ourselves....:rolleyes:. I mean hell, you get all the blame without doing anything, might as well at least be guilty since your tried and convicted anyway....is anyone getting the point here....???????????? You guys better wakeup and realize, if you keep on your present course you are going to lose everything....Midwest managment screwed you and you stepped right into the trap....Kudos
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Originally Posted by tank6102
(Post 649041)
your contradicting yourself....you say you bought midwest and the flying is yours but at the same time the pilots are just as much midwest as the flying is....think about what you say before you say it
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