9e Airlines President defends regional pay
08-08-2009 | 07:25 AM
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What did any of my posts have to do with CRM?
Well thank you for your concern, but im the least cocky person around. Im just stating what ive observed, and what others have observed.
08-08-2009 | 02:56 PM
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08-08-2009 | 03:06 PM
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Where did I say I was "so smart because I'm a Captain"? My FO's are valued crewmembers with me. I expect them to be knowledgable, capable and professional! Do I think I am smarter. No......More experienced? You bet your a$$! My 11 years of experience in many types of aircraft and flying conditions trumps what most every FO brings to the cockpit. Maybe you should think of that the next time you and your attitude climbs into the cockpit with your "stupid" Captains!
08-08-2009 | 03:07 PM
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08-08-2009 | 03:44 PM
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As you said though, again, we wonder. Reference the PVD incident. Not only from the the crew that refused to do anything till UAL was clear, but also the UAL plane.
08-08-2009 | 06:11 PM
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LOL!~
Where did I say I was "so smart because I'm a Captain"? My FO's are valued crewmembers with me. I expect them to be knowledgable, capable and professional! Do I think I am smarter. No......More experienced? You bet your a$$! My 11 years of experience in many types of aircraft and flying conditions trumps what most every FO brings to the cockpit. Maybe you should think of that the next time you and your attitude climbs into the cockpit with your "stupid" Captains!
Where did I say I was "so smart because I'm a Captain"? My FO's are valued crewmembers with me. I expect them to be knowledgable, capable and professional! Do I think I am smarter. No......More experienced? You bet your a$$! My 11 years of experience in many types of aircraft and flying conditions trumps what most every FO brings to the cockpit. Maybe you should think of that the next time you and your attitude climbs into the cockpit with your "stupid" Captains!
Not all FO's at the Regionals are 300 hour wonders. FO here with 14 years of experience many many types of aircraft and a lot of Turbine time before even starting at the Regional................still learning........will always be.
We all have different backgrounds and this industry is a complex one.
You never know who you will find with you in the cockpit.
The best Captains are the humble ones that recognize they are still learning (and are interested in learning even from an FO) and will do so as long as they fly.
I have flown with an aviation historical pilot and he was the most humble one I ever known.
They also have to be interested in being role model and mentor for the FO as FOs are Captains in training.
A worthless Captain is one that cannot give or teach anything, thinks he is ready and knows it all or have so bad habits that the FO has to Ignore the way he does things just not to fall into the same pattern.
Bad attitude sticks to both groups.
Captains save FOs mistakes and FOs save Captains mistakes. That why we are two in the cockpit.
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08-08-2009 | 06:45 PM
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Just a note
Not all FO's at the Regionals are 300 hour wonders. FO here with 14 years of experience many many types of aircraft and a lot of Turbine time before even starting at the Regional................still learning........will always be.
We all have different backgrounds and this industry is a complex one.
You never know who you will find with you in the cockpit.
The best Captains are the humble ones that recognize they are still learning (and are interested in learning even from an FO) and will do so as long as they fly.
I have flown with an aviation historical pilot and he was the most humble one I ever known.
They also have to be interested in being role model and mentor for the FO as FOs are Captains in training.
A worthless Captain is one that cannot give or teach anything, thinks he is ready and knows it all or have so bad habits that the FO has to Ignore the way he does things just not to fall into the same pattern.
Bad attitude sticks to both groups.
Captains save FOs mistakes and FOs save Captains mistakes. That why we are two in the cockpit.
Not all FO's at the Regionals are 300 hour wonders. FO here with 14 years of experience many many types of aircraft and a lot of Turbine time before even starting at the Regional................still learning........will always be.
We all have different backgrounds and this industry is a complex one.
You never know who you will find with you in the cockpit.
The best Captains are the humble ones that recognize they are still learning (and are interested in learning even from an FO) and will do so as long as they fly.
I have flown with an aviation historical pilot and he was the most humble one I ever known.
They also have to be interested in being role model and mentor for the FO as FOs are Captains in training.
A worthless Captain is one that cannot give or teach anything, thinks he is ready and knows it all or have so bad habits that the FO has to Ignore the way he does things just not to fall into the same pattern.
Bad attitude sticks to both groups.
Captains save FOs mistakes and FOs save Captains mistakes. That why we are two in the cockpit.
08-09-2009 | 06:09 AM
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LOL!~
Where did I say I was "so smart because I'm a Captain"? My FO's are valued crewmembers with me. I expect them to be knowledgable, capable and professional! Do I think I am smarter. No......More experienced? You bet your a$$! My 11 years of experience in many types of aircraft and flying conditions trumps what most every FO brings to the cockpit. Maybe you should think of that the next time you and your attitude climbs into the cockpit with your "stupid" Captains!
Where did I say I was "so smart because I'm a Captain"? My FO's are valued crewmembers with me. I expect them to be knowledgable, capable and professional! Do I think I am smarter. No......More experienced? You bet your a$$! My 11 years of experience in many types of aircraft and flying conditions trumps what most every FO brings to the cockpit. Maybe you should think of that the next time you and your attitude climbs into the cockpit with your "stupid" Captains!
But by the way, I dont know why you attacked me in the first place while I was defending myself as an FO in response to Phils comment about FO responsibility.
I would think most captains would defend and FO for their second in opinion in the cockpit and I was stating how yes I have helped my Captains probably from getting violated.
08-09-2009 | 06:59 AM
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Instead of posting on APC write the members of the subcommittee.
http://isakson.senate.gov/contact.cfm
http://thune.senate.gov/public/
http://begich.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=EmailSenator
http://johanns.senate.gov/public/?p=EmailSenatorJohanns
After watching that hearing I was so disgusted, I wrote a 3 page letter telling them all the lies they heard that day.
http://isakson.senate.gov/contact.cfm
http://thune.senate.gov/public/
http://begich.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=EmailSenator
http://johanns.senate.gov/public/?p=EmailSenatorJohanns
After watching that hearing I was so disgusted, I wrote a 3 page letter telling them all the lies they heard that day.
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