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mking84 08-13-2009 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 661176)
An airplane doesn't have the power to do all that destroyin'...only pilots do.

Id say its an all inclusive deal, pilots, management, etc that comes with the plane, that's what I was referring to.

BoilerUP 08-13-2009 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by mking84 (Post 661186)
Id say its an all inclusive deal, pilots, management, etc that comes with the plane, that's what I was referring to.

I disagree.

You wouldn't have to worry about E-Jets at Republic (and CR7s and CR9s at a half-dozen other carriers) hulk-smashing your career expectations if pilots (mainline AND regional alike) could see further than six inches in front of their freaking face...

TillerEnvy 08-13-2009 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by AirWillie (Post 661002)
Show us the seniority numbers of these ashamed pilots that are forced to replace mainline Midwest. If it's anything higher than the bottom 10% on either seat, that's a pretty big middle finger I'd say. Not that it matters anyways but since you are coming on here defending against the obvious.

EGoJet dude...stay out please.

LoitaHills 08-13-2009 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 661177)
I have. They are out there.

Yes, they are out there. Just like your carrier has it's group of morons, so does everybody else's. That doesn't make the rank and file pilot group that way.

From another thread with some editing:

All RAH pilots are mean and think they're better than everyone..

My airline is better than your airline.

I make more than you.

My roommate makes less than me.

My pax are more comfortable than yours.

My airplane is better than yours.

You fly more mainline looking routes than me.

Equals => I’m just jealous and scared for my job.

Way to go off topic drama queens… keep it up because that’s exactly what management wants. What are you, 12?

This new airline legislation should contain a new ATP requirement... maturity.

Move on...please...and stop the drama....

G2TT 08-13-2009 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by mking84 (Post 661166)
That 170 ahead of him has DESTROYED this industry and our future.

And before the 170 it was the cr7&9, before that it was your 145 and cr200 (Regionals flying jets? How dare they!) Before the RJs it was dash 8s and ATRs (regionals flying turboprops carying 50+ pax? How dare they!) Before that it was 1900s and JBalls (Regionals flying turbines? How dare they!) There's always something destroying the industry. As Boiler said, it's not the airplanes fault. It goes back to the pilots who DIDN'T want them who started this debacle.

Killer51883 08-13-2009 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by G2TT (Post 661411)
And before the 170 it was the cr7&9, before that it was your 145 and cr200 (Regionals flying jets? How dare they!) Before the RJs it was dash 8s and ATRs (regionals flying turboprops carying 50+ pax? How dare they!) Before that it was 1900s and JBalls (Regionals flying turbines? How dare they!) There's always something destroying the industry. As Boiler said, it's not the airplanes fault. It goes back to the pilots who DIDN'T want them who started this debacle.

if only those pilots back then would have thought like that then instead of arguing which regional is lowering the bar we could be all flying for delta american united usair and continental making $100K a year and living the dream that this was originally supposed to be........

ToiletDuck 08-13-2009 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by saab2000 (Post 661021)
FWIW, the huge blended winglets on the EMB 170/190 series airplanes massively reduce wake vortices. Same on the 737 with winglets.

Not saying one shouldn't be cautious, I have a lot of respect for wakes myself, but the 170 is not really a hazard to safe flight with those big, efficient winglets.

I haven't experienced it personally but I know of a couple instances where an ERJ has been caught in the wake of a 170, parallel runway, and had to go missed. They were very amazed at how disruptive it was. One of them frequents these boards.

ToiletDuck 08-13-2009 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by AirWillie (Post 661002)
Show us the seniority numbers of these ashamed pilots that are forced to replace mainline Midwest. If it's anything higher than the bottom 10% on either seat, that's a pretty big middle finger I'd say. Not that it matters anyways but since you are coming on here defending against the obvious.

If you had the option to live in base you wouldn't take it. No one wanted the aircraft here but once they are you'd be an idiot to not bid to live in base.

PS You work for GoJets. There's not larger example of a hypocrite.

Joachim 08-13-2009 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by avi8tor4life (Post 661009)
I agree that a 737 is not a "heavy" but will give you a ride. As will an md80. But a 170 10 miles in front of me with a departure of an erj on the same runway in between shouldn't be cause to worry.

And Apc is not where you hear Rah pilots boasting about flying the Midwest flights, that's done while jumpseating to ind and California. I've had a it a couple times already.

The controller was reffering to the wake of shear awsomeness that the E170/190 trails behind itself. There you are, a little more fuel for your juvenile, timewasting, embarrasing, and self disclosing **** excuse for a discussion.

StrikeTime 08-13-2009 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by Joachim (Post 661680)
The controller was reffering to the wake of the shear awsomeness that the E170/190 trails behind itself. There you are, a little more fuel for your juvenile, timewasting, embarrasing, and self disclosing **** excuse for a discussion.

Oh man.. I have to say, I got a pretty good laugh from that. :D


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