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Old 09-06-2009 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by minimwage4
You and company are choosing to miss the point. Those routes are long GONE, they will forever be flown by regionals. There is nothing you can do about that. The NEW regional pandora's box that RAH has opened up is that they not only are going to replace routes but actually fly mainline airliners with regional pilots.
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No buddy it's not ok. By the way they are not being furloughed they will be replaced.

Choosing to miss the point - really... Because the routes have been covered by RJ's for a few years and are "long gone", it's ok? Because it happened a long time ago and resulted in many furloughed mainline pilots, it's ok? You remind me of my twin 7 year-old nephews and a game my fiance and I like to play when we have them for the day. My fiance and I will choose a word of the day, and use it over and over and over until the twins start to use it at take it home with them. It kills my sister and brother-in-law. Last weeks word was "sick". It's fun to watch a couple midwestern 7 year-olds walking around letting everyone know that everything is "sick!".

You seem to glom on to everything that is said on these boards and regurgitate it without understanding.
Old 09-06-2009 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Fletch727
Choosing to miss the point - really... Because the routes have been covered by RJ's for a few years and are "long gone", it's ok? Because it happened a long time ago and resulted in many furloughed mainline pilots, it's ok?
ITS NOT OK! This is what I mean by you are choosing to miss the point, read the last few posts. The routes are not in question.
Old 09-06-2009 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirty Rat
It is your fault for what has happen to Midwest. You have taken our jobs. We are using every legal way possible to get them back. If that means kicking your ass off an aircraft that is flying our routes with our name on it, than so be it. You people amaze me. How do you tell a donkey he is an ass when he thinks he is a Quarter horse?
YouTube - they took our jobs
Old 09-06-2009 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirty Rat
It is your fault for what has happen to Midwest. You have taken our jobs. We are using every legal way possible to get them back. If that means kicking your ass off an aircraft that is flying our routes with our name on it, than so be it. You people amaze me. How do you tell a donkey he is an ass when he thinks he is a Quarter horse?
Well said. In the old days the word (s c a b) would be flying... when the word was coined, back in the day, nobody envisioned that instead of a company directly hiring replacement workers, they woud hire a replacement company...
Old 09-06-2009 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Mason32
Well said. In the old days the word (s c a b) would be flying... when the word was coined, back in the day, nobody envisioned that instead of a company directly hiring replacement workers, they woud hire a replacement company...
In those good old days the pilots would have gone on strike against the company's mistreatment.
Old 09-06-2009 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TrojanCMH
call us names, steal bags out of hotel vans
Are you serious? Stealing others bags? Wow. That'll show 'em.
Old 09-06-2009 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Mason32
Well said. In the old days the word (s c a b) would be flying... when the word was coined, back in the day, nobody envisioned that instead of a company directly hiring replacement workers, they woud hire a replacement company...

Get real...no line was crossed, therefore the term scab is not appropriate at all. That "replacement company" hasn't been hired, its the one running the show. RAH bought midwest. You fail to understand that.
Old 09-06-2009 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguy23
Get real...no line was crossed, therefore the term scab is not appropriate at all. That "replacement company" hasn't been hired, its the one running the show. RAH bought midwest. You fail to understand that.
You fail to understand what RAH has done, and you are distorting the chain of events to suit your own opinion, rather than objectively looking at what happened.

When RAH became the replacement company for all but 9 of Midwest's 717's they were hired to replace existing planes and crews... They weren't being hired to bring in more feed, or to expand the route structure, they were brought in as a direct replacement. How you can not understand that is beyond comprehension...

The fact that many months later RAH bought midwest is not relevant to RAH's actions up until that point. Midwest furloughed pilots and contracted with a replacement company, as assuredly as if they had hired individual replacement workers directly.
Old 09-06-2009 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by oasis04
Carreer expectations.......? I am playing devils advocate here but weren't yx's expectations going forward prior to rah a big zero. the entire staff from ground crew to ceo should have been expecting to doll up their resume's. Maybe a more accurate word should be career entitlements?
Needed to be said and seen again, because its the one inconvenient truth that so many here are making the conscience decision to overlook.
Old 09-06-2009 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Mason32
You fail to understand what RAH has done, and you are distorting the chain of events to suit your own opinion, rather than objectively looking at what happened.

When RAH became the replacement company for all but 9 of Midwest's 717's they were hired to replace existing planes and crews... They weren't being hired to bring in more feed, or to expand the route structure, they were brought in as a direct replacement. How you can not understand that is beyond comprehension...

The fact that many months later RAH bought midwest is not relevant to RAH's actions up until that point. Midwest furloughed pilots and contracted with a replacement company, as assuredly as if they had hired individual replacement workers directly.
*** do you think happened after 9/11?

Mainline planes were parked and mainline pilots furloughed while regional planes grew (in number and in size) while regional pilots grew at double-digit rates.

By your logic, every single regional pilot that wasn't already employed at 8am on Sept. 11th, 2001 is a replacement worker.
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