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Old 09-06-2009 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Foxcow



I'd rather not fly than work for gojets. When Trans States finally goes out of business I'll be going into another line of work.
That's pretty bleak.
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Old 09-06-2009 | 10:25 PM
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US? Is that a picture of you at your mainline job? I didn't bless you with anything.

Yeah, actually, my job was taken from me as flying has been transferred from TSA to GJ.

Thanks for returning the favor on a good laugh though! Kicking and screaming like little kids? How about trying to stand together for a better contract ... instead of rolling over like GJ did on their contract. Though, it's not really a contract when you don't have a union to enforce it.
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Old 09-06-2009 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by de727ups
"I can't understand how its alright now that furloughed ATA/UAL guys there."

I can.

Any UA guys coming over with the blessing of ALPA are hardly "bottom feeders". They scratched and clawed and paid their dues to reach a legacy and ended up on the street. I'd bet their experience levels are vastly superior to Gojet min hiring standards of the ATP academy sort. Big difference in experience and competence. These guys aren't "bottom feeder" material. Feel free to match your experience level with there's if you're not sure. In the end, they have the blessing of the UA MEC. Maybe you should take your fight to ALPA and leave the personal bashing off the forums.
Well good thing your a "former" moderator now, because now I can tell you that you're wrong on all accounts. Circumventing a collective bargaining agreement is wrong on all fronts regardless of who is doing it. In this case the UA MEC endorsed going to "any" express carrier without much thought to the damage they were doing to their ALPA brothers.

A little a fact about the UA MEC; about 10 years ago, a bunch of reps. from different carriers brought forward a motion for a single seniority list, and the UA MEC was the first to oppose it. Fast forward to today, more specifically late last year, as the MEC started to see their career expectations and possibly their jobs at UA fade, now they decided that a single seniority list would be a great idea, and they brought the motion forward to national. The point of the story is that the UA MEC only cares about the UA MEC, they have proven time and time again to be as effective in fighting for the profession, as Tilton is managing the airline. So for all those guys that took the jobs at UA, whether or not you think is wrong, please know that you helped an alter-ego circumvent an ALPA contract.; but hey, it's your flying right? Good luck.
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Old 09-06-2009 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 250 or point 65
US? Is that a picture of you at your mainline job? I didn't bless you with anything.

Yeah, actually, my job was taken from me as flying has been transferred from TSA to GJ.

Thanks for returning the favor on a good laugh though! Kicking and screaming like little kids? How about trying to stand together for a better contract ... instead of rolling over like GJ did on their contract. Though, it's not really a contract when you don't have a union to enforce it.
How could united flying be transfered from TS to Gojet? TSA doesn't fly 66 seaters.
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Old 09-06-2009 | 10:32 PM
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Very well put, Bond.
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Old 09-06-2009 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AirWillie
Hahaha,As if something was taken from him... Good luck on your new contract and best of luck with the kicking and screaming like little kids. I'm sure that will win over fellow pilots and management, especially when you know the next contract, if they every make one, will probably have Gojet written on it.
And there you have it folks. The caliber of person that works at gojets, and the reason why they will continue to be denied jumpseats across the board.
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Old 09-06-2009 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by AirWillie
How could united flying be transfered from TS to Gojet? TSA doesn't fly 66 seaters.
Very naive of you to equate seats to flying taken via the creation of an alter-ego.
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Old 09-06-2009 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Bond
And there you have it folks. The caliber of person that works at gojets, and the reason why they will continue to be denied jumpseats across the board.
Well.. the hatred and the obvious big chip on you shoulder is blinding that is why I and probably others can't take anything you say very seriously.
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Old 09-06-2009 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Bond
Very naive of you to equate seats to flying taken via the creation of an alter-ego.
Who ever said it was TSA flying? The alterego argument has already been tried and lost in court. But as long as you keep saying it it might be true.
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Old 09-06-2009 | 10:38 PM
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The facts are just as blinding. Court decision or not, GJ was staffed by pilots on another seniority list to circumvent an ALPA contract. Period.
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