That is really the only point I'm trying to make.

the vote can only go 1 way to bring furloughed folks back faster. that be a No.
if it goes the other way plan on more furloughs.

PBS allows all of the above - the specific dynamics of your category will determine how much you can do these things. For example - in my category the Captains always complain because there is almost nothing in open time - this would result in some of the issues you mention above. On the other hand, the FOs always have trips in open time and you can still do all that you mentioned above.

As far as maxiimizing time off with vacations, PBS also allows that. Now its not as good as touching trips, but say you have the 10th- 17th off in a particular month, your first bid request would be for the 18th off, followed by the 18th and 19th off, followed by the 18th-20th off, etc, etc. PBS will then try to build you a line with the 18th off, if you get that it will try for the 18th and 19th off and keep going until you can no longer hold (via your seniority) the days off that you want. Using this bidding technique you can usually always get a few days off on either end of a vacation.

Like I said before, PBS does have its downside, which is mostly the need for fewer pilots, as far as scheduling goes most guys, at most companies that use PBS, like it. A lot will depend how your category is manned - if you have a lot of MIL guys there tends to be more open time etc.

Scoop

So I guess if it is voted in we find out just how good that "no furlough" clause is?

Wrong! Get the facts! The union did not give up the no furlough clause. Stop spreading fear and misinformation!

ok then correction, a yes vote will delay the return of already F'ed.

Well, since you won't take PMs now:

Tell ya what, I don't have a chip on my shoulder nor do I have any preconceptions so I'll be a good boy and leave it with this. Again, you have valid points and could make a much better impact if you didn't begin conversations like you did above. When/if the time comes that we get recalled (despite your wishes that I choose not to come back) I will happily fly with you without any preconceptions. And, to be nice I'll remove my cheap shots.

Don't get personal, this thread should be about what pbs can/will do for ASA. I hope it makes us more marketable to pick up more flying, I hope we can maintain a QOL that is available from the days when swapping was a normal thing before red arrows, and if this PBS concession/TA/whatever you want to call it goes through- we need to ensure the force in place on day of signing is protected by more than contract language and rhetoric.

Think long term my friend, not short term. While I'm not saying whether we should vote yes or no on this upcoming LOA, if PBS is not brought to ASA sometime soon the F'ed guys can seriously consider never being brought back if you get my drift(shrinkage)

Growth is the best option the F'ed guys have of getting back. PBS will seriously help in that department. We're the only DCI in the portfolio to not have PBS and it's never good to be that guy.

I'm just amazed that several people on here are convinced that this is going to get us more flying. And saying "Jerry said" does not help, especially after the speeches he have in the crew lounge during the last contract talks.