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SilkySmooth 09-19-2009 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by Maxcackel (Post 680863)
Has anybody thought of how the new FAA work rules might affect the way we would write the contract for pbs. And should we wait until the rules come out?

The new rules, whatever they may be, will be more restrictive, therefore requiring more pilots. There's no sense in bargaining for something (no more furloughs) that we're going to get for free. In fact, when the new rules go into effect, I predict they'll need to bring back the furloughees anyway.

USMC3197 09-19-2009 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by SilkySmooth (Post 681145)
The new rules, whatever they may be, will be more restrictive, therefore requiring more pilots. There's no sense in bargaining for something (no more furloughs) that we're going to get for free. In fact, when the new rules go into effect, I predict they'll need to bring back the furloughees anyway.

Not necessarily, they can just work you more days. Granted 30/7 will stop them from taking too much advantage of that.

ASAnotASAP 09-20-2009 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by JetPipeOverht (Post 680884)
We should get what we can get now with this purposed implementation, and then adjusts for the better when we can.

Ahr u seerious?

Banshee365 10-15-2009 02:17 PM

So the news from SH in my mailbox is that ASA is going back to flica while eBid is regeared for PBS. Does anyone have any new dirt on how the language is coming along. Most importantly, the furlough protection. We all know PBS is more efficient and saves money mostly by requiring less pilots for a certain amount of flying. Is ALPA making sure there will not be anymore furlough's after PBS is implemented?

selcal 10-15-2009 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by Banshee365 (Post 695091)
So the news from SH in my mailbox is that ASA is going back to flica while eBid is regeared for PBS. Does anyone have any new dirt on how the language is coming along. Most importantly, the furlough protection. We all know PBS is more efficient and saves money mostly by requiring less pilots for a certain amount of flying. Is ALPA making sure there will not be anymore furlough's after PBS is implemented?

Read your union email.

Paid2fly 10-15-2009 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by rjboy (Post 677147)
Take a good look at the SKYW program. Has been running for about four years now and most people prefer it to hard lines.








That's funny, because I just flew with our number 1 FO and he still can't figure out why he's not getting all his bid choices, and finding out that people junior to him are getting pairings he bid...I'm in the same boat, just not bidding number one, but there is no transparency with our PBS system, and I frequently see junior crewmembers getting pairings I didn't from my first and second layers.:rolleyes:

Truman_Sparks 10-15-2009 06:46 PM

Whats funny is ASA isn't getting the PBS vendor, nor work rules that Skywest has. See, our Union negotiated our PBS with management. We didn't get it forced upon us.......

Anyhow, not saying it will be good - or bad. But, the difference in rules, vendors and setup will be wide between ASA and Skywest on this one. Hey, maybe you can threaten to unionize and piggy back off of us, again!

Paid2fly 10-15-2009 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by Truman_Sparks (Post 695258)
Whats funny is ASA isn't getting the PBS vendor, nor work rules that Skywest has. See, our Union negotiated our PBS with management. We didn't get it forced upon us.......

Anyhow, not saying it will be good - or bad. But, the difference in rules, vendors and setup will be wide between ASA and Skywest on this one. Hey, maybe you can threaten to unionize and piggy back off of us, again!






If that was a response to my post, I'm well aware of the "difference in rules, vendors and setup between ASA and Skyw".... You'll notice my response was to a post from someone here stating how well loved PBS was at Skyw!
As for your smug comment about unionizing...I wasn't originally hired by this company, the one I was hired at was bought by SkyWest, and I've voted for a union every time we've had a vote since then!!

Truman_Sparks 10-15-2009 07:10 PM

Ok. Cool......Smugness retracted.

Banshee365 10-15-2009 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by selcal (Post 695158)
Read your union email.

I knew someone was going to try and come up with some smart @$$ response. Did you smile when you thought it was a good one? Answer the damn question. My email has changed recently and I havn't been able to change it in ALPA's records. If I did I probably wouldn't be posting this would I. Didn't think so.

I'm simply looking for someone to provide some answers on this, not waste a post on the thread.


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