Why were minimums so low?
#42
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People with smaller... umm... things usually need to make up for their inadequacies by making themselves bigger and more important than they really are.
#43
Sorry, not trying to offend anybody. If the traveling public was truly aware of what is, or what can be, in the cockpits at regionals they would probably chose to travel by alternate means as well. I'll take two mainline flights to avoid even a direct regional flight every single day of the week.
In fact, when I commute to work I could easilly take one of our regional affiliates and arrive right at my own terminal, instead I will fly on a mainline carrier and do the airport shuffle to my terminal. The few people on here who know me, will attest to the validity of the fact that I don't ride regionals unless absolutely mandatory to do so.... or unless I know the crew personally. When I get on those things and the FO hasn't even started shaving daily yet, I typically will turn around and get off.
Now, that is not meant as a low blow, it's simply a statement of fact.
In fact, when I commute to work I could easilly take one of our regional affiliates and arrive right at my own terminal, instead I will fly on a mainline carrier and do the airport shuffle to my terminal. The few people on here who know me, will attest to the validity of the fact that I don't ride regionals unless absolutely mandatory to do so.... or unless I know the crew personally. When I get on those things and the FO hasn't even started shaving daily yet, I typically will turn around and get off.
Now, that is not meant as a low blow, it's simply a statement of fact.
You do what you do because it allows you higher Jumpseat Priority.
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Actually WHEN the congress bill passes, they will never be that low again.
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I've seen 500 hour guys with no CFI that were excellent in training because all they did was fly IFR XC and I've seen 1500 VFR CFIs that were afraid to hand fly an airplane with no FD, and a bunch of other examples. It all depends on the individual and also the training they've had. 1500 hour is just a number, it doesn't mean anything.
Colgan crash FO had a 2200 hours and was hired with 1700. The CA had 3500. So 5700 combined.
Comair crash they had thousands.
Show us an accident that was caused by a 200 hour wonder.
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#48
Passengers only care about flying down to Orlando for $49.00. They demand cheap airfares and then whine when there's no service.
Comedians made careers out of complaining about airline food, then were upset when the airlines stopped serving said meals.
But these same people want to fly for the cheapest possible price available. They have demanded Greyhound prices and seem surprised by the Greyhound services.
People want to enjoy the finest things in life - best car, desiner jeans, huge house, big screen TV. They then DEMAND "Sully" when something goes wrong up there on their $49.00 flight, flown by a guy making $17,000/year (and hasn't seen his wife in 10 days).
Remember after the Colgan crash - there was all that talk about airline pilot pay. Hell, even Congress was concerned. Ahh, that was a good week.
Comedians made careers out of complaining about airline food, then were upset when the airlines stopped serving said meals.
But these same people want to fly for the cheapest possible price available. They have demanded Greyhound prices and seem surprised by the Greyhound services.
People want to enjoy the finest things in life - best car, desiner jeans, huge house, big screen TV. They then DEMAND "Sully" when something goes wrong up there on their $49.00 flight, flown by a guy making $17,000/year (and hasn't seen his wife in 10 days).
Remember after the Colgan crash - there was all that talk about airline pilot pay. Hell, even Congress was concerned. Ahh, that was a good week.
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DOT defines an airline with over a billion in revenues as a major airline which different from how the pilots define major and regional airlines.
People with smaller... umm... things usually need to make up for their inadequacies by making themselves bigger and more important than they really are.
People with smaller... umm... things usually need to make up for their inadequacies by making themselves bigger and more important than they really are.
Sorry, I'm not at Eagle. Doesn't mean I never ever was either. Take it for what it is.
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Didn't the CA have just barely over 100 in type? and didn't both of them admit to having very little experience in icing weather....
There is your accident caused by low experience, and poor training.
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