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Originally Posted by DBSociety
(Post 681491)
The Dec 31st 2008 FAA database shows 613.746 total certs (student-ATP) and 271,584 hold either a COMM or ATP. Theres really no way to tell who went for a new medical on Jan 1st, who flies New York to Milan and who got out of the game and sells used cars.
Ther are so many places in the "study" where flaws krept in that as I said, it makes for good entertainment... |
Interesting numbers, but just realize that 5 years from now, there may be plenty of Indian/Chinese/Pakistani/Country X pilots who have 1500 hours.
Look at the past 20 years. Consumers ONLY care about low cost. They'll b1tch about bad service/food/delays but they'll keep buying the cheapest ticket. Management only cares about themselves and reducing costs. Pilots are the only group who benefits from high labor rates, and guess what - we're not decision makers in this process. Foreign pilots and/or foreign airlines are a natural fit to today's environment. |
Classes of physical
Originally Posted by WEACLRS
(Post 681470)
I think most FO's still go in and renew their medical once a year as a first and then get a new one twelve months later. I know I did as did my fellow pilots.
Also FWIW, a senior FAA flight surgeon advised that it's a good precaution to keep your first-class current, even if you only need a second-class now but will need a first-class down the road. He said that if some medical issue were to make granting a first-class a close call, they are more likely to renew an existing first-class than to "upgrade" a second to a first. If true, the reason for this may be more bureaucratic than medical. |
Originally Posted by tomgoodman
(Post 681538)
FWIW, Delta used to require F/Os and S/Os to get a first-class once a year, even though it was OK to let it "lapse" into a second-class after six months. (Don't know if this is still the policy.) The reason they gave was that it enabled them to obtain "certain waivers", perhaps having to do with insurance.
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Originally Posted by dojetdriver
(Post 681540)
Are you talking where the FO is never required to act as IRO/RFO?
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman
(Post 681549)
Yes. This was before the 767ER etc. joined the fleet. As I said, I don't know what the current policy is.
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Originally Posted by Mason32
(Post 681423)
You should not have restricted it to only first class medicals, since FO's are not required to have one. You typically have to have a first to get hired, but most companies do not require that FO's maintain the first until they prepare to upgrade... so, you are possibly missing up to half of the 121 pilots flying...
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Originally Posted by Mason32
(Post 681442)
....of why folks with MBA's shouldn't run airlines, since they actually believe this stuff.
Its not like running a corner lemonade stand. |
I'm surprised at some of the responses. To the OP, thanks for an interesting post.
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Clarification
Originally Posted by dojetdriver
(Post 681556)
Sorry, I was clear enough in my question? Are you saying that an FO OR an IRO never had to possess a first class? Even on a 767-200/300 that may have required one?
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